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Attributes | |
ACN | 842256 |
Time | |
Date | 200907 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601-1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | SFO.Airport |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | B747-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | Landing |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 200 Flight Crew Total 23000 Flight Crew Type 5000 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying Captain |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 197 Flight Crew Total 19514 Flight Crew Type 4629 |
Narrative:
Following receiving clearance for a visual approach to runway 28L; we switched to sfo tower frequency. The pilot flying was high and fast on approach; and I; as relief pilot; was monitoring his airspeed and flap configuration. The pilot flying called for flaps 25 and they were selected; but the pilot flying allowed the airspeed to increase; causing flap relief to 20 degrees. The pilot flying then decreased airspeed; and called for flaps 30. After 30 flaps were selected; the pilot flying again increased airspeed causing flaps to load relief and remain at 25 degrees. I was concentrating on the pilot flying's airspeed maintenance and watching for when the flaps would move to 30 degrees. The PF reduced airspeed; and the flaps moved to 30 degrees at about 600 ft AGL. We landed uneventfully and exited the runway. At that time; the pilot not flying asked the crew if we remembered receiving a clearance to land. Because of the intensity of concentration on the pilot flying's approach; none of us remembered for certain if a landing clearance had been received from the tower. We asked the tower later if we had clearance to land; and they said we had received a green light. This incident occurred because the pilot flying was behind the airplane; high and fast on approach; and very close to violating the stabilized approach criteria. We were all fixated on monitoring the pilot-flying's performance; and thus no one thought to query the tower for landing clearance. Nothing unsafe occurred; but this was an omission that could have had much more serious consequences.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747 flight crew was concerned about landing without a clearance at SFO. All of their attention was focused on an unstabilized approach after a fatiguing international flight.
Narrative: Following receiving clearance for a visual approach to Runway 28L; we switched to SFO Tower frequency. The pilot flying was high and fast on approach; and I; as relief pilot; was monitoring his airspeed and flap configuration. The pilot flying called for Flaps 25 and they were selected; but the pilot flying allowed the airspeed to increase; causing flap relief to 20 degrees. The pilot flying then decreased airspeed; and called for Flaps 30. After 30 flaps were selected; the pilot flying again increased airspeed causing flaps to load relief and remain at 25 degrees. I was concentrating on the pilot flying's airspeed maintenance and watching for when the flaps would move to 30 degrees. The PF reduced airspeed; and the flaps moved to 30 degrees at about 600 FT AGL. We landed uneventfully and exited the runway. At that time; the pilot not flying asked the crew if we remembered receiving a clearance to land. Because of the intensity of concentration on the pilot flying's approach; none of us remembered for certain if a landing clearance had been received from the tower. We asked the tower later if we had clearance to land; and they said we had received a green light. This incident occurred because the pilot flying was behind the airplane; high and fast on approach; and very close to violating the stabilized approach criteria. We were all fixated on monitoring the pilot-flying's performance; and thus no one thought to query the tower for landing clearance. Nothing unsafe occurred; but this was an omission that could have had much more serious consequences.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.