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Attributes | |
ACN | 583652 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : position and hold ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 501 flight time type : 35 |
ASRS Report | 583652 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | other Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I started my plane for a trip. I noticed the plane next to me hastily getting underway and taxiing down the ramp to the runway like he was in a hurry. He never did a run-up (none of my business) or announce ('if anyone was in the pattern...that I heard'). I had done my run-up at the parking position and proceeded down the ramp to the runway. I did announce 'anyone in the pattern' and with no response, I began to taxi down the 5000 ft runway to the runway numbers for departure. The intentions of the other pilot were not known. I got to the takeoff position (runway numbers) while monitoring my gauges all along. I turned and proceeded to depart when I noticed the fuel gauge never went up but slightly with very little pressure. I looked at it and decided to turn the electric fuel pump on and off to see a change. At this point our friendly pilot in the other plane was yelling at me frantically that I should depart. My comment to him was 'go around.' to this, the sensitive eared pilot, reported me to the safety counselor at our airport who insisted that I say the guy in the sky has priority and insisted I admit an error or he was reporting me to the FAA. I may have delayed departure for a very good reason and to go around was not a serious problem. I have had to do it many times, but this sensitive pilot seems to think it was a major problem to be inconvenienced. I agree the guy in the sky has priority but no emergency was stated and no indication that he was practicing 'touch and goes.' in fact, I only heard him on base and thought I had plenty of time. Note: our airport has the taxiway under construction so back taxiing is necessary for departure.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER NOTING ANOTHER PLT NOT USING STANDARD CTAF PROCS THERE IS A CONFLICT REQUIRING A GAR WHEN THE RPTR DELAYS IN TKOF POS FOR FUEL INDICATION PROB AFTER BACK TAXI ON THE RWY REQUIRED BY ARPT CONSTRUCTION.
Narrative: I STARTED MY PLANE FOR A TRIP. I NOTICED THE PLANE NEXT TO ME HASTILY GETTING UNDERWAY AND TAXIING DOWN THE RAMP TO THE RWY LIKE HE WAS IN A HURRY. HE NEVER DID A RUN-UP (NONE OF MY BUSINESS) OR ANNOUNCE ('IF ANYONE WAS IN THE PATTERN...THAT I HEARD'). I HAD DONE MY RUN-UP AT THE PARKING POS AND PROCEEDED DOWN THE RAMP TO THE RWY. I DID ANNOUNCE 'ANYONE IN THE PATTERN' AND WITH NO RESPONSE, I BEGAN TO TAXI DOWN THE 5000 FT RWY TO THE RWY NUMBERS FOR DEP. THE INTENTIONS OF THE OTHER PLT WERE NOT KNOWN. I GOT TO THE TKOF POS (RWY NUMBERS) WHILE MONITORING MY GAUGES ALL ALONG. I TURNED AND PROCEEDED TO DEPART WHEN I NOTICED THE FUEL GAUGE NEVER WENT UP BUT SLIGHTLY WITH VERY LITTLE PRESSURE. I LOOKED AT IT AND DECIDED TO TURN THE ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP ON AND OFF TO SEE A CHANGE. AT THIS POINT OUR FRIENDLY PLT IN THE OTHER PLANE WAS YELLING AT ME FRANTICALLY THAT I SHOULD DEPART. MY COMMENT TO HIM WAS 'GO AROUND.' TO THIS, THE SENSITIVE EARED PLT, RPTED ME TO THE SAFETY COUNSELOR AT OUR ARPT WHO INSISTED THAT I SAY THE GUY IN THE SKY HAS PRIORITY AND INSISTED I ADMIT AN ERROR OR HE WAS RPTING ME TO THE FAA. I MAY HAVE DELAYED DEP FOR A VERY GOOD REASON AND TO GO AROUND WAS NOT A SERIOUS PROB. I HAVE HAD TO DO IT MANY TIMES, BUT THIS SENSITIVE PLT SEEMS TO THINK IT WAS A MAJOR PROB TO BE INCONVENIENCED. I AGREE THE GUY IN THE SKY HAS PRIORITY BUT NO EMER WAS STATED AND NO INDICATION THAT HE WAS PRACTICING 'TOUCH AND GOES.' IN FACT, I ONLY HEARD HIM ON BASE AND THOUGHT I HAD PLENTY OF TIME. NOTE: OUR ARPT HAS THE TXWY UNDER CONSTRUCTION SO BACK TAXIING IS NECESSARY FOR DEP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.