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Attributes | |
ACN | 583864 |
Time | |
Date | 200304 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Scout |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding ground : maintenance |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time total : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 583864 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were on a mission for the police. The controller asked us to move east of our location for an inbound C130 doing practice NDB approachs into meadows field. The first time we complied, but with the statement, 'but I am at 4000 ft (well above the inbound C130)' the controller still requested that we should fly to the east thus making us fly out of our orbit. But the second time he (the controller) asked me to move I said, 'negative, vector that aircraft around us.' the mission we were on, it was imperative that we stay where we were. It was a VFR day and I had a visual on the plane. No corrective action had to be taken by any of the aircraft in our area at that time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A SCOUT PLT IS GIVEN A VECTOR BY AN APCH CTLR, WHICH HE DENIES.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A MISSION FOR THE POLICE. THE CTLR ASKED US TO MOVE E OF OUR LOCATION FOR AN INBOUND C130 DOING PRACTICE NDB APCHS INTO MEADOWS FIELD. THE FIRST TIME WE COMPLIED, BUT WITH THE STATEMENT, 'BUT I AM AT 4000 FT (WELL ABOVE THE INBOUND C130)' THE CTLR STILL REQUESTED THAT WE SHOULD FLY TO THE E THUS MAKING US FLY OUT OF OUR ORBIT. BUT THE SECOND TIME HE (THE CTLR) ASKED ME TO MOVE I SAID, 'NEGATIVE, VECTOR THAT ACFT AROUND US.' THE MISSION WE WERE ON, IT WAS IMPERATIVE THAT WE STAY WHERE WE WERE. IT WAS A VFR DAY AND I HAD A VISUAL ON THE PLANE. NO CORRECTIVE ACTION HAD TO BE TAKEN BY ANY OF THE ACFT IN OUR AREA AT THAT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.