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Attributes | |
ACN | 585020 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 19 other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 585020 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
ASRS Report | 584520 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
First leg of the flight and the crew had not previously flown together. Each crew member has about 18 months experience in line operations on the airbus. Mixed crew: captain cdap qualified, first officer not. Briefed ILS runway 1 dca. Just prior to base turn for the ILS, approach control announced lda DME runway 19 now in use. WX had just become 1000 ft/3 mi (although there were several layers of scattered scud being reported below the ceiling) and there was a varying 6-9 KT tailwind component on runway 1 causing the aircraft from other companies to request runway 19 or need to divert. We were turned around for vector for the lda. The lda runway 19 is not line selectable. Captain and first officer were now rushed. We entered as much data as we could in the FMGC, briefed the approach and I briefed the first officer on his duties as PNF on a cdap approach. First officer was unfamiliar with the trk-fpa flight director mode and indications. We were immediately cleared for the approach only 4 mi from the FAF. After meeting the initial step-down fix we descended to the 'flight attendant' and selected trk-fpa. At the fly-off distance (published) I called for 'fpa' 3 degrees down. The first officer was task saturated with other duties and did not respond. I selected 3 degrees and pulled but 'fpa mode' did not engage. At the same time I became visual with the runway and continued the approach. By the time I realized the 'fpa mode' had not engaged we were high on the cdap GS. I selected 4 degrees down, deselected autoplt and attempted to maintain 1000 FPM descent rate. At about 500 ft we received a single 'descent rate' verbal annunciation. I immediately corrected back to 1000 FPM and continued the approach. Touchdown was approximately 1500 ft down the runway and firm but not hard. Rollout was normal. In retrospect, I should have gone around. I was reluctant to do so because of the variable WX and winds and after the low-altitude maneuvering, I was becoming concerned about fuel for the alternate of pittsburg. I also believed that I could achieve a stabilized approach. There are 2 outside factors which contributed to this incident. First is the requirement to fly a cdap approach with an untrained crew member. This left me without the 2-MAN concept support which air carrier X pilots are accustomed to and is emphasized in every other aspect of air carrier X flight operations. I believe we would have been safer to fly this approach using the old 'dive and drive' method which both crew members are fully trained to fly. Mixed crews should revert to the fully trained 'dive and drive' rather than having 1 person try to fly a procedure which is totally unfamiliar to the other crew member. (I believe air carrier X did just that when we were being trained on prm approachs.) second, the lda runway 19 should be line selectable. It is a primary approach to an airport that air carrier X 319/320's routinely use. I have heard other air carrier X airbus pilots express confusion regarding the proper procedures to use when assigned this approach. Please don't hesitate to call me if I can provide any other information regarding this incident. My copilot and I extensively debriefed the approach. We have both filed fsap reports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 FLT CREW EXECUTES AN LDA DME RWY 19 APCH TO DCA USING THE CDAP (CONSTANT DSCNT APCH PROCS) WITH ONLY 1 CREW MEMBER QUALIFIED FOR THE PROC.
Narrative: FIRST LEG OF THE FLT AND THE CREW HAD NOT PREVIOUSLY FLOWN TOGETHER. EACH CREW MEMBER HAS ABOUT 18 MONTHS EXPERIENCE IN LINE OPS ON THE AIRBUS. MIXED CREW: CAPT CDAP QUALIFIED, FO NOT. BRIEFED ILS RWY 1 DCA. JUST PRIOR TO BASE TURN FOR THE ILS, APCH CTL ANNOUNCED LDA DME RWY 19 NOW IN USE. WX HAD JUST BECOME 1000 FT/3 MI (ALTHOUGH THERE WERE SEVERAL LAYERS OF SCATTERED SCUD BEING RPTED BELOW THE CEILING) AND THERE WAS A VARYING 6-9 KT TAILWIND COMPONENT ON RWY 1 CAUSING THE ACFT FROM OTHER COMPANIES TO REQUEST RWY 19 OR NEED TO DIVERT. WE WERE TURNED AROUND FOR VECTOR FOR THE LDA. THE LDA RWY 19 IS NOT LINE SELECTABLE. CAPT AND FO WERE NOW RUSHED. WE ENTERED AS MUCH DATA AS WE COULD IN THE FMGC, BRIEFED THE APCH AND I BRIEFED THE FO ON HIS DUTIES AS PNF ON A CDAP APCH. FO WAS UNFAMILIAR WITH THE TRK-FPA FLT DIRECTOR MODE AND INDICATIONS. WE WERE IMMEDIATELY CLRED FOR THE APCH ONLY 4 MI FROM THE FAF. AFTER MEETING THE INITIAL STEP-DOWN FIX WE DSNDED TO THE 'FA' AND SELECTED TRK-FPA. AT THE FLY-OFF DISTANCE (PUBLISHED) I CALLED FOR 'FPA' 3 DEGS DOWN. THE FO WAS TASK SATURATED WITH OTHER DUTIES AND DID NOT RESPOND. I SELECTED 3 DEGS AND PULLED BUT 'FPA MODE' DID NOT ENGAGE. AT THE SAME TIME I BECAME VISUAL WITH THE RWY AND CONTINUED THE APCH. BY THE TIME I REALIZED THE 'FPA MODE' HAD NOT ENGAGED WE WERE HIGH ON THE CDAP GS. I SELECTED 4 DEGS DOWN, DESELECTED AUTOPLT AND ATTEMPTED TO MAINTAIN 1000 FPM DSCNT RATE. AT ABOUT 500 FT WE RECEIVED A SINGLE 'DSCNT RATE' VERBAL ANNUNCIATION. I IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED BACK TO 1000 FPM AND CONTINUED THE APCH. TOUCHDOWN WAS APPROX 1500 FT DOWN THE RWY AND FIRM BUT NOT HARD. ROLLOUT WAS NORMAL. IN RETROSPECT, I SHOULD HAVE GONE AROUND. I WAS RELUCTANT TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE VARIABLE WX AND WINDS AND AFTER THE LOW-ALT MANEUVERING, I WAS BECOMING CONCERNED ABOUT FUEL FOR THE ALTERNATE OF PITTSBURG. I ALSO BELIEVED THAT I COULD ACHIEVE A STABILIZED APCH. THERE ARE 2 OUTSIDE FACTORS WHICH CONTRIBUTED TO THIS INCIDENT. FIRST IS THE REQUIREMENT TO FLY A CDAP APCH WITH AN UNTRAINED CREW MEMBER. THIS LEFT ME WITHOUT THE 2-MAN CONCEPT SUPPORT WHICH ACR X PLTS ARE ACCUSTOMED TO AND IS EMPHASIZED IN EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF ACR X FLT OPS. I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE BEEN SAFER TO FLY THIS APCH USING THE OLD 'DIVE AND DRIVE' METHOD WHICH BOTH CREW MEMBERS ARE FULLY TRAINED TO FLY. MIXED CREWS SHOULD REVERT TO THE FULLY TRAINED 'DIVE AND DRIVE' RATHER THAN HAVING 1 PERSON TRY TO FLY A PROC WHICH IS TOTALLY UNFAMILIAR TO THE OTHER CREW MEMBER. (I BELIEVE ACR X DID JUST THAT WHEN WE WERE BEING TRAINED ON PRM APCHS.) SECOND, THE LDA RWY 19 SHOULD BE LINE SELECTABLE. IT IS A PRIMARY APCH TO AN ARPT THAT ACR X 319/320'S ROUTINELY USE. I HAVE HEARD OTHER ACR X AIRBUS PLTS EXPRESS CONFUSION REGARDING THE PROPER PROCS TO USE WHEN ASSIGNED THIS APCH. PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO CALL ME IF I CAN PROVIDE ANY OTHER INFO REGARDING THIS INCIDENT. MY COPLT AND I EXTENSIVELY DEBRIEFED THE APCH. WE HAVE BOTH FILED FSAP RPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.