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Attributes | |
ACN | 587293 |
Time | |
Date | 200306 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v95.airway |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk (A4) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute airway : v95.airway |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 587293 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : tcad other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was just completing a basic instrument training mission with a student in airspace designated as training area 'charlie' by our flight school based at phoenix-goodyear municipal airport in a company grob 120A. Training area 'charlie' is approximately 25 NM south of goodyear airport, situated between the tfd and gbn vortacs. We operate from the surface to 6500 ft MSL. At the completion of the training in the training area I instructed the student to turn right to 270 degree magnetic and maintain 4500 ft MSL. As we rolled wings level the tcad identified a target at 2 miles, 12 O'clock, same altitude and showing a rapid closure rate. I visually identified the traffic at approximately 1000 ft in front of us and recognized the aircraft as a boeing mcdonnell-douglas A4 skyhawk single-engine attack jet. I immediately took evasive action by a hand bank to the right and estimate the horizontal miss distance at 200 ft or less. There was no vertical separation and the A4 did not take evasive action. This is my first encounter with one of these aircraft in the vicinity of one of our training areas. We established procedures with nearby luke AFB and the transition rtes for their aircraft. Our near miss occurred 5 mi north of V95. I would recommend that the A4 operator use a locally developed website that provides information (location and frequencys) of training area used by the numerous flight schools in the phoenix area. This may provide them with information on how to arrive and depart from williams-gateway airport in such a way as to minimize the mid-air collision threat within these training areas. Their operations are not as well known as the military operations around phoenix. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter advised all parties, civil, military and special use activity organizations meet with the phx FSDO and discuss and coordination training activities on a quarterly basis. The A4 operator is an attendee. The reporter assumes this information is disseminated within the attending organizations, thus people know who is operating where, when and at what altitudes. Reporter advised this is the only known near midair collision within his organization.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: G120A INSTRUCTOR TAKES FLT CTL OF ACFT FROM TRAINEE TO AVOID AN A4 MIL TRAINER WHEN CONDUCTING TRAINING OPERATIONS W OF TFD VORTAC.
Narrative: I WAS JUST COMPLETING A BASIC INSTRUMENT TRAINING MISSION WITH A STUDENT IN AIRSPACE DESIGNATED AS TRAINING AREA 'CHARLIE' BY OUR FLT SCHOOL BASED AT PHOENIX-GOODYEAR MUNICIPAL ARPT IN A COMPANY GROB 120A. TRAINING AREA 'CHARLIE' IS APPROX 25 NM S OF GOODYEAR ARPT, SITUATED BTWN THE TFD AND GBN VORTACS. WE OPERATE FROM THE SURFACE TO 6500 FT MSL. AT THE COMPLETION OF THE TRAINING IN THE TRAINING AREA I INSTRUCTED THE STUDENT TO TURN R TO 270 DEG MAGNETIC AND MAINTAIN 4500 FT MSL. AS WE ROLLED WINGS LEVEL THE TCAD IDENTIFIED A TARGET AT 2 MILES, 12 O'CLOCK, SAME ALT AND SHOWING A RAPID CLOSURE RATE. I VISUALLY IDENTIFIED THE TFC AT APPROX 1000 FT IN FRONT OF US AND RECOGNIZED THE ACFT AS A BOEING MCDONNELL-DOUGLAS A4 SKYHAWK SINGLE-ENG ATTACK JET. I IMMEDIATELY TOOK EVASIVE ACTION BY A HAND BANK TO THE R AND ESTIMATE THE HORIZONTAL MISS DISTANCE AT 200 FT OR LESS. THERE WAS NO VERTICAL SEPARATION AND THE A4 DID NOT TAKE EVASIVE ACTION. THIS IS MY FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH ONE OF THESE ACFT IN THE VICINITY OF ONE OF OUR TRAINING AREAS. WE ESTABLISHED PROCS WITH NEARBY LUKE AFB AND THE TRANSITION RTES FOR THEIR ACFT. OUR NEAR MISS OCCURRED 5 MI N OF V95. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE A4 OPERATOR USE A LOCALLY DEVELOPED WEBSITE THAT PROVIDES INFO (LOCATION AND FREQS) OF TRAINING AREA USED BY THE NUMEROUS FLT SCHOOLS IN THE PHOENIX AREA. THIS MAY PROVIDE THEM WITH INFO ON HOW TO ARRIVE AND DEPART FROM WILLIAMS-GATEWAY ARPT IN SUCH A WAY AS TO MINIMIZE THE MID-AIR COLLISION THREAT WITHIN THESE TRAINING AREAS. THEIR OPERATIONS ARE NOT AS WELL KNOWN AS THE MILITARY OPERATIONS AROUND PHOENIX. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ADVISED ALL PARTIES, CIVIL, MIL AND SPECIAL USE ACTIVITY ORGANIZATIONS MEET WITH THE PHX FSDO AND DISCUSS AND COORD TRAINING ACTIVITIES ON A QUARTERLY BASIS. THE A4 OPERATOR IS AN ATTENDEE. THE RPTR ASSUMES THIS INFO IS DISSEMINATED WITHIN THE ATTENDING ORGANIZATIONS, THUS PEOPLE KNOW WHO IS OPERATING WHERE, WHEN AND AT WHAT ALTS. RPTR ADVISED THIS IS THE ONLY KNOWN NMAC WITHIN HIS ORGANIZATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.