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Attributes | |
ACN | 587977 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bhb.airport |
State Reference | ME |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bgr.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Falcon 900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff ground : taxi ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 587977 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation other |
Narrative:
Location: bhb. Time of day: XA00. Flight conditions: VMC. Day prior to takeoff from bhb, a route change clearance was issued at the end of the runway. I read back that we were cleared to 17000 ft. ATC did not correct this. After takeoff, I reported airborne passing 2000 ft climbing to 17000 ft, again ATC acknowledged without correction. After passing 11000 ft, ATC called stating that we were cleared only to 10000 ft. We then descended to 10000 ft and ATC asked that we call them to discuss this issue. Talking to the supervisor at bangor approach he stated that my clearance was to the 10000 ft and that the controller did not catch the readback error. The supervisor also stated that the controller did not catch error on the after-takeoff call stating a climb of 17000 ft. The supervisor also stated that the controller issuing the 10000 ft clearance, my readback of 17000 ft as well as the after-takeoff call climbing to 17000 ft is on the ATC tape recording. The supervisor stated that he was submitting a operational deviation report but was not sure that I could have done to prevent this thing from happening again and he acknowledged the controllers not correcting the error on 2 separate occasions. The other pilot received the original clearance but was on the other radio when ATC issued the revised clearance. We reprogrammed the navigation equipment and discussed the altitude difference, but didn't think it was unusual. Thinking back, an altitude change is slightly unusual and greater care should be used to ensure correctness. The opportunity to correct this problem was in the controller's hands by listening to the readback. ATC should not issue revised clrncs at the end of the runway. Usually these changes are minor and only add confusion to a high workload environment. The crew has to reprogram the FMS the altitude alerters and rebrief. They also have to look up new routing on charts which encourages taking short cuts.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: F900 CREW WAS ACCUSED OF AN ALTDEV AFTER 2 CTLRS DID NOT CATCH A READBACK ERROR.
Narrative: LOCATION: BHB. TIME OF DAY: XA00. FLT CONDITIONS: VMC. DAY PRIOR TO TKOF FROM BHB, A RTE CHANGE CLRNC WAS ISSUED AT THE END OF THE RWY. I READ BACK THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 17000 FT. ATC DID NOT CORRECT THIS. AFTER TKOF, I RPTED AIRBORNE PASSING 2000 FT CLBING TO 17000 FT, AGAIN ATC ACKNOWLEDGED WITHOUT CORRECTION. AFTER PASSING 11000 FT, ATC CALLED STATING THAT WE WERE CLRED ONLY TO 10000 FT. WE THEN DSNDED TO 10000 FT AND ATC ASKED THAT WE CALL THEM TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE. TALKING TO THE SUPVR AT BANGOR APCH HE STATED THAT MY CLRNC WAS TO THE 10000 FT AND THAT THE CTLR DID NOT CATCH THE READBACK ERROR. THE SUPVR ALSO STATED THAT THE CTLR DID NOT CATCH ERROR ON THE AFTER-TKOF CALL STATING A CLB OF 17000 FT. THE SUPVR ALSO STATED THAT THE CTLR ISSUING THE 10000 FT CLRNC, MY READBACK OF 17000 FT AS WELL AS THE AFTER-TKOF CALL CLBING TO 17000 FT IS ON THE ATC TAPE RECORDING. THE SUPVR STATED THAT HE WAS SUBMITTING A OPDEV RPT BUT WAS NOT SURE THAT I COULD HAVE DONE TO PREVENT THIS THING FROM HAPPENING AGAIN AND HE ACKNOWLEDGED THE CTLRS NOT CORRECTING THE ERROR ON 2 SEPARATE OCCASIONS. THE OTHER PLT RECEIVED THE ORIGINAL CLRNC BUT WAS ON THE OTHER RADIO WHEN ATC ISSUED THE REVISED CLRNC. WE REPROGRAMMED THE NAV EQUIP AND DISCUSSED THE ALT DIFFERENCE, BUT DIDN'T THINK IT WAS UNUSUAL. THINKING BACK, AN ALT CHANGE IS SLIGHTLY UNUSUAL AND GREATER CARE SHOULD BE USED TO ENSURE CORRECTNESS. THE OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THIS PROB WAS IN THE CTLR'S HANDS BY LISTENING TO THE READBACK. ATC SHOULD NOT ISSUE REVISED CLRNCS AT THE END OF THE RWY. USUALLY THESE CHANGES ARE MINOR AND ONLY ADD CONFUSION TO A HIGH WORKLOAD ENVIRONMENT. THE CREW HAS TO REPROGRAM THE FMS THE ALT ALERTERS AND REBRIEF. THEY ALSO HAVE TO LOOK UP NEW ROUTING ON CHARTS WHICH ENCOURAGES TAKING SHORT CUTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.