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Attributes | |
ACN | 588401 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : grb.tracon |
State Reference | WI |
Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : grb.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 29 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : atw.tower |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 480 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 588401 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I was on an IFR flight plan in VMC from 57C to atw. I was handed off from ZAU to grb approach. Shortly after the handoff, grb asked me if I had traffic at my 3 O'clock position, in real close. I checked and couldn't see anything. Then grb said the target disappeared and they suspected a 'split beacon.' I was on a 360 degree vector up the east side of lake winnebago, being vectored for the ILS runway 29 at atw. The intercept takes place on the north side or the lake. Grb turned me in on the intercept and cleared me for the approach. I was at 3000 ft. Shortly after making the turn inbound, they told me to call atw tower. At the same time, I spotted the other plane directly above me and slightly ahead. We had 300-500 ft of vertical separation. I reported it to grb approach, and they said it must not have been a split beacon after all. Our 2 targets were merged the entire time. Grb said they were not talking to him. When I switched to atw tower, I reported it. They said they were talking to him and he was sight-seeing around the shore of the lake. Because I was the lower plane in a high wing, and he was higher in a low wing, we never saw each other.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR C172 VECTORED TO ILS BY GRB CTLR EXPERIENCED NMAC WITH VFR ACFT.
Narrative: I WAS ON AN IFR FLT PLAN IN VMC FROM 57C TO ATW. I WAS HANDED OFF FROM ZAU TO GRB APCH. SHORTLY AFTER THE HDOF, GRB ASKED ME IF I HAD TFC AT MY 3 O'CLOCK POS, IN REAL CLOSE. I CHKED AND COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING. THEN GRB SAID THE TARGET DISAPPEARED AND THEY SUSPECTED A 'SPLIT BEACON.' I WAS ON A 360 DEG VECTOR UP THE E SIDE OF LAKE WINNEBAGO, BEING VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 29 AT ATW. THE INTERCEPT TAKES PLACE ON THE N SIDE OR THE LAKE. GRB TURNED ME IN ON THE INTERCEPT AND CLRED ME FOR THE APCH. I WAS AT 3000 FT. SHORTLY AFTER MAKING THE TURN INBOUND, THEY TOLD ME TO CALL ATW TWR. AT THE SAME TIME, I SPOTTED THE OTHER PLANE DIRECTLY ABOVE ME AND SLIGHTLY AHEAD. WE HAD 300-500 FT OF VERT SEPARATION. I RPTED IT TO GRB APCH, AND THEY SAID IT MUST NOT HAVE BEEN A SPLIT BEACON AFTER ALL. OUR 2 TARGETS WERE MERGED THE ENTIRE TIME. GRB SAID THEY WERE NOT TALKING TO HIM. WHEN I SWITCHED TO ATW TWR, I RPTED IT. THEY SAID THEY WERE TALKING TO HIM AND HE WAS SIGHT-SEEING AROUND THE SHORE OF THE LAKE. BECAUSE I WAS THE LOWER PLANE IN A HIGH WING, AND HE WAS HIGHER IN A LOW WING, WE NEVER SAW EACH OTHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.