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Attributes | |
ACN | 589012 |
Time | |
Date | 200307 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : inl.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3300 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zmp.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 31 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 3600 |
ASRS Report | 589012 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The controller asked our intentions for an instrument approach into international falls. We were at 7000 ft. I requested ILS runway 31 and was given direct raize at 5000 ft, 'report established inbound.' the approach to raize starts with a 14 NM arc from inl DME at 3300 ft. Once established on the approach as published, I began a descent as indicated to 3300 ft. This would establish the aircraft inbound to the LOM (raize). The center controller called an altitude deviation at this point and said I was supposed to remain at 5000 ft. My mistake was that I thought I had been 'cleared' for the approach, but the controller said that he only wanted me at 5000 ft over the LOM. As I was #1 for the airport, the confusion came because there is no way I could descend from the LOM at 5000 ft to land and therefore could not make a normal approach. I should have not commenced the approach. The controller should have been more specific and used the terms report established if he was not going to authority/authorized the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF C172 BEGAN DSCNT OUT OF ASSIGNED ALT WHEN HE MISINTERPED ZMP CTLR'S CLRNC TO PROCEED DIRECT TO LOM, MAINTAIN 5000 FT FOR THE RWY 31 ILS APCH TO INL.
Narrative: THE CTLR ASKED OUR INTENTIONS FOR AN INST APCH INTO INTL FALLS. WE WERE AT 7000 FT. I REQUESTED ILS RWY 31 AND WAS GIVEN DIRECT RAIZE AT 5000 FT, 'RPT ESTABLISHED INBOUND.' THE APCH TO RAIZE STARTS WITH A 14 NM ARC FROM INL DME AT 3300 FT. ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE APCH AS PUBLISHED, I BEGAN A DSCNT AS INDICATED TO 3300 FT. THIS WOULD ESTABLISH THE ACFT INBOUND TO THE LOM (RAIZE). THE CTR CTLR CALLED AN ALTDEV AT THIS POINT AND SAID I WAS SUPPOSED TO REMAIN AT 5000 FT. MY MISTAKE WAS THAT I THOUGHT I HAD BEEN 'CLRED' FOR THE APCH, BUT THE CTLR SAID THAT HE ONLY WANTED ME AT 5000 FT OVER THE LOM. AS I WAS #1 FOR THE ARPT, THE CONFUSION CAME BECAUSE THERE IS NO WAY I COULD DSND FROM THE LOM AT 5000 FT TO LAND AND THEREFORE COULD NOT MAKE A NORMAL APCH. I SHOULD HAVE NOT COMMENCED THE APCH. THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE SPECIFIC AND USED THE TERMS RPT ESTABLISHED IF HE WAS NOT GOING TO AUTH THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.