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Attributes | |
ACN | 589520 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zab.artcc |
State Reference | NM |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 589520 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather Company Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I picked up flight. Aircraft had 3 MEL's. One was the electric windshield heat. Window R-2 was written up for a burn spot on the window. The provision of MEL states that you cannot fly into known or forecast icing. I wanted to talk to dispatch about the MEL, but got sidetracked with other items during the preflight and forgot to contact dispatch. There were spotted storm in az and NM and WX in the bna area. My thought was that I could avoid the WX areas in az and NM, and that the WX in the bna area was moving east so that it wouldn't be a factor on arrival. We took off and did deviate around several areas of WX. At 37000 ft, we were on top of the WX with slight deviations to avoid WX tops. On arrival into bna, the WX had moved off to the east and was not a factor. During this flight we did avoid any icing conditions. However, after reviewing MEL and the definitions in the MEL, I feel that the MEL is more restrictive than what I interpreted it to be. After reviewing the MEL, I came to the conclusion that I did not comply with the provisions stated in the MEL. Even though I avoided any icing conditions along the flight, I didn't comply fully with the MEL because there was WX along the way. If there had been an emergency or other situation that would require a descent, then we would have had to descend into the clouds below us. Thankfully the flight was uneventful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-700 FLT CREW FLEW INTO ICING CONDITIONS WITH AN MEL RESTRICTING SUCH OPS.
Narrative: I PICKED UP FLT. ACFT HAD 3 MEL'S. ONE WAS THE ELECTRIC WINDSHIELD HEAT. WINDOW R-2 WAS WRITTEN UP FOR A BURN SPOT ON THE WINDOW. THE PROVISION OF MEL STATES THAT YOU CANNOT FLY INTO KNOWN OR FORECAST ICING. I WANTED TO TALK TO DISPATCH ABOUT THE MEL, BUT GOT SIDETRACKED WITH OTHER ITEMS DURING THE PREFLT AND FORGOT TO CONTACT DISPATCH. THERE WERE SPOTTED STORM IN AZ AND NM AND WX IN THE BNA AREA. MY THOUGHT WAS THAT I COULD AVOID THE WX AREAS IN AZ AND NM, AND THAT THE WX IN THE BNA AREA WAS MOVING E SO THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A FACTOR ON ARR. WE TOOK OFF AND DID DEVIATE AROUND SEVERAL AREAS OF WX. AT 37000 FT, WE WERE ON TOP OF THE WX WITH SLIGHT DEVS TO AVOID WX TOPS. ON ARR INTO BNA, THE WX HAD MOVED OFF TO THE E AND WAS NOT A FACTOR. DURING THIS FLT WE DID AVOID ANY ICING CONDITIONS. HOWEVER, AFTER REVIEWING MEL AND THE DEFINITIONS IN THE MEL, I FEEL THAT THE MEL IS MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN WHAT I INTERPED IT TO BE. AFTER REVIEWING THE MEL, I CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I DID NOT COMPLY WITH THE PROVISIONS STATED IN THE MEL. EVEN THOUGH I AVOIDED ANY ICING CONDITIONS ALONG THE FLT, I DIDN'T COMPLY FULLY WITH THE MEL BECAUSE THERE WAS WX ALONG THE WAY. IF THERE HAD BEEN AN EMER OR OTHER SIT THAT WOULD REQUIRE A DSCNT, THEN WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO DSND INTO THE CLOUDS BELOW US. THANKFULLY THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.