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A VFR PA32 pilot tells of a descent clearance that would have placed his aircraft head on with an opposite direction PA28 below while on frequency with sct TRACON for an approach to lgb, ca.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 590047 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200308 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : sct.tracon |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 30 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 3800 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 590047 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2500 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Requested practice ILS runway 30 lgb from socal approach after handoff from lax departure. Socal assigned heading 210 degrees and 2500 ft descent while calling out VFR opposite traffic at 12 O'clock position. Looking straight ahead, I realized the vector and altitude just assigned pointed me on a collision course with a cherokee that was going in opposite direction. I took evasive action with a right turn and observed other aircraft pass under my left wing at 3500 ft. If I descended as directed by ATC, we would likely have collided. I told ATC 'that was too close,' and received no reply.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VFR PA32 PLT TELLS OF A DSCNT CLRNC THAT WOULD HAVE PLACED HIS ACFT HEAD ON WITH AN OPPOSITE DIRECTION PA28 BELOW WHILE ON FREQ WITH SCT TRACON FOR AN APCH TO LGB, CA.
Narrative: REQUESTED PRACTICE ILS RWY 30 LGB FROM SOCAL APCH AFTER HDOF FROM LAX DEP. SOCAL ASSIGNED HDG 210 DEGS AND 2500 FT DSCNT WHILE CALLING OUT VFR OPPOSITE TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK POS. LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD, I REALIZED THE VECTOR AND ALT JUST ASSIGNED POINTED ME ON A COLLISION COURSE WITH A CHEROKEE THAT WAS GOING IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION. I TOOK EVASIVE ACTION WITH A R TURN AND OBSERVED OTHER ACFT PASS UNDER MY L WING AT 3500 FT. IF I DSNDED AS DIRECTED BY ATC, WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE COLLIDED. I TOLD ATC 'THAT WAS TOO CLOSE,' AND RECEIVED NO REPLY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.