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Attributes | |
ACN | 590961 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : rjaa.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : rjaa.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : position and hold |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : rjaa.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 590961 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : executed go around |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On aug/fri/03, I was the augmenting first officer of flight from nrt to sea. After completing the pre-departure checks, we pushed back from our parking spot, started engines and proceeded to taxi for takeoff from runway 34L at nrt. The WX conditions were light northerly winds, with low (approximately 200 ft AGL) ceilings and 1 to 1/2 mi visibility. While taxing, around half way to the runway, ground control asked if we would be ready at the end, implying that a takeoff clearance was imminent, to which the flying first officer replied 'affirmative.' at that time we were instructed to contact tower. Upon contact with the tower, nearing the runway 34L run-up area, we were instructed to 'continue.' as we approached the departure end of runway 34L, the tower instructed us to 'position and hold runway 34L' to which the flying first officer read back 'aircraft X position and hold runway 34L?' and completed his final before takeoff checks. There was not however, a response from the tower indicating a correct (or incorrect) readback. Upon taking position on runway 34L, aircraft Y contacted the tower that they were inside the final approach fix. All 3 members of the cockpit observed act Y as a TCASII target (I believe the initial picture showed act Y near the FAF) tower responded 'continue' which is a typical response when another aircraft is still on the runway. Noticing the proximity of aircraft Y on the TCASII (approximately 300-400 ft AGL) the flying first officer keyed the microphone and stated that aircraft X was still on the runway. Simultaneously, the tower instructed aircraft Y to go around. Tower then questioned us as to why we were on the runway and stated that he told us to hold short. The flying first officer refuted his statement that he cleared us into position (a position that was confirmed by both the captain and myself). Subsequently, we were cleared for takeoff. It is of note that we could make out, albeit barely, the tower complex from our position. After contacting departure, we were notified to contact 'approach' on another frequency, which had a supervisor on the other end. In his inquiry, the supervisor asked us why we had a runway incursion to which we responded that we in fact did not have a runway incursion and we were cleared onto runway 34L. The flying first officer, in concurrence with the rest of the cockpit crew, reiterated that we had been cleared into position and read back as such, and the controller never responded to the contrary. The supervisor stated that he would pull the tapes to review the dialog. The remainder of the flight was uneventful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 FLT CREW HAS RWY INCURSION AT RJAA.
Narrative: ON AUG/FRI/03, I WAS THE AUGMENTING FO OF FLT FROM NRT TO SEA. AFTER COMPLETING THE PRE-DEP CHKS, WE PUSHED BACK FROM OUR PARKING SPOT, STARTED ENGS AND PROCEEDED TO TAXI FOR TKOF FROM RWY 34L AT NRT. THE WX CONDITIONS WERE LIGHT NORTHERLY WINDS, WITH LOW (APPROX 200 FT AGL) CEILINGS AND 1 TO 1/2 MI VISIBILITY. WHILE TAXING, AROUND HALF WAY TO THE RWY, GND CTL ASKED IF WE WOULD BE READY AT THE END, IMPLYING THAT A TKOF CLRNC WAS IMMINENT, TO WHICH THE FLYING FO REPLIED 'AFFIRMATIVE.' AT THAT TIME WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT TWR. UPON CONTACT WITH THE TWR, NEARING THE RWY 34L RUN-UP AREA, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO 'CONTINUE.' AS WE APCHED THE DEP END OF RWY 34L, THE TWR INSTRUCTED US TO 'POS AND HOLD RWY 34L' TO WHICH THE FLYING FO READ BACK 'ACFT X POS AND HOLD RWY 34L?' AND COMPLETED HIS FINAL BEFORE TKOF CHKS. THERE WAS NOT HOWEVER, A RESPONSE FROM THE TWR INDICATING A CORRECT (OR INCORRECT) READBACK. UPON TAKING POS ON RWY 34L, ACFT Y CONTACTED THE TWR THAT THEY WERE INSIDE THE FINAL APCH FIX. ALL 3 MEMBERS OF THE COCKPIT OBSERVED ACT Y AS A TCASII TARGET (I BELIEVE THE INITIAL PICTURE SHOWED ACT Y NEAR THE FAF) TWR RESPONDED 'CONTINUE' WHICH IS A TYPICAL RESPONSE WHEN ANOTHER ACFT IS STILL ON THE RWY. NOTICING THE PROX OF ACFT Y ON THE TCASII (APPROX 300-400 FT AGL) THE FLYING FO KEYED THE MIKE AND STATED THAT ACFT X WAS STILL ON THE RWY. SIMULTANEOUSLY, THE TWR INSTRUCTED ACFT Y TO GO AROUND. TWR THEN QUESTIONED US AS TO WHY WE WERE ON THE RWY AND STATED THAT HE TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT. THE FLYING FO REFUTED HIS STATEMENT THAT HE CLRED US INTO POS (A POS THAT WAS CONFIRMED BY BOTH THE CAPT AND MYSELF). SUBSEQUENTLY, WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF. IT IS OF NOTE THAT WE COULD MAKE OUT, ALBEIT BARELY, THE TWR COMPLEX FROM OUR POS. AFTER CONTACTING DEP, WE WERE NOTIFIED TO CONTACT 'APCH' ON ANOTHER FREQ, WHICH HAD A SUPVR ON THE OTHER END. IN HIS INQUIRY, THE SUPVR ASKED US WHY WE HAD A RWY INCURSION TO WHICH WE RESPONDED THAT WE IN FACT DID NOT HAVE A RWY INCURSION AND WE WERE CLRED ONTO RWY 34L. THE FLYING FO, IN CONCURRENCE WITH THE REST OF THE COCKPIT CREW, REITERATED THAT WE HAD BEEN CLRED INTO POS AND READ BACK AS SUCH, AND THE CTLR NEVER RESPONDED TO THE CONTRARY. THE SUPVR STATED THAT HE WOULD PULL THE TAPES TO REVIEW THE DIALOG. THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.