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Attributes | |
ACN | 591040 |
Time | |
Date | 200308 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : dxo.vor |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl single value : 18000 |
Environment | |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau.artcc artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc artcc : zau.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : instrument |
Experience | controller radar : 2 flight time total : 300 |
ASRS Report | 591040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 16200 vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
We were in the hold for detroit and had just sent 2 aircraft in as pathfinders. One aircraft said he could only take one more turn or he would have to divert, so coordination was being done to assist him. At the same time, additional coordination was being done with ZAU. There was some frequency congestion and an aircraft said he was responding to an RA. Looking at the radar, the aircraft targets appeared to be vertically separated. Although there was a loss of separation, the radar controller did a great job working numerous aircraft in a very complex situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOB CTLR IS ADVISED BY B737 OF TCASII RA MANEUVER WHEN IN HOLDING.
Narrative: WE WERE IN THE HOLD FOR DETROIT AND HAD JUST SENT 2 ACFT IN AS PATHFINDERS. ONE ACFT SAID HE COULD ONLY TAKE ONE MORE TURN OR HE WOULD HAVE TO DIVERT, SO COORD WAS BEING DONE TO ASSIST HIM. AT THE SAME TIME, ADDITIONAL COORD WAS BEING DONE WITH ZAU. THERE WAS SOME FREQ CONGESTION AND AN ACFT SAID HE WAS RESPONDING TO AN RA. LOOKING AT THE RADAR, THE ACFT TARGETS APPEARED TO BE VERTLY SEPARATED. ALTHOUGH THERE WAS A LOSS OF SEPARATION, THE RADAR CTLR DID A GREAT JOB WORKING NUMEROUS ACFT IN A VERY COMPLEX SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.