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Attributes | |
ACN | 592439 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : lax.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 36000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 9000 |
ASRS Report | 592439 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 4100 |
ASRS Report | 592215 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While cruising at FL370, we had just encountered light to moderate chop. I turned on the seatbelt sign and went off the frequency to make a PA. When I came back on, I was relieved to see we had received descent clearance to FL240 and began a cruise descent hoping to find smoother air. I recall being about 30 mi from top of descent point so descent clearance sounded reasonable. The controller told us to stop descent as we were passing through FL360 and asked us when we received descent clearance. My first officer answered, 'about a min ago.' the controller stated that descent clearance was for another aircraft. My first officer told me he read back the clearance. Maybe the readback was blocked or readback for mistaken identify was not caught, or there was no mistaken identify and the controller made an honest mistake. The remainder of flight continued uneventfully and the controller did not sound frustrated with us. In the future, I will always verify clearance with controller if only one of us hears the clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B737-300 DSNDED WITHOUT CLRNC IN ZLA AIRSPACE.
Narrative: WHILE CRUISING AT FL370, WE HAD JUST ENCOUNTERED LIGHT TO MODERATE CHOP. I TURNED ON THE SEATBELT SIGN AND WENT OFF THE FREQ TO MAKE A PA. WHEN I CAME BACK ON, I WAS RELIEVED TO SEE WE HAD RECEIVED DSCNT CLRNC TO FL240 AND BEGAN A CRUISE DSCNT HOPING TO FIND SMOOTHER AIR. I RECALL BEING ABOUT 30 MI FROM TOP OF DSCNT POINT SO DSCNT CLRNC SOUNDED REASONABLE. THE CTLR TOLD US TO STOP DSCNT AS WE WERE PASSING THROUGH FL360 AND ASKED US WHEN WE RECEIVED DSCNT CLRNC. MY FO ANSWERED, 'ABOUT A MIN AGO.' THE CTLR STATED THAT DSCNT CLRNC WAS FOR ANOTHER ACFT. MY FO TOLD ME HE READ BACK THE CLRNC. MAYBE THE READBACK WAS BLOCKED OR READBACK FOR MISTAKEN IDENT WAS NOT CAUGHT, OR THERE WAS NO MISTAKEN IDENT AND THE CTLR MADE AN HONEST MISTAKE. THE REMAINDER OF FLT CONTINUED UNEVENTFULLY AND THE CTLR DID NOT SOUND FRUSTRATED WITH US. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL ALWAYS VERIFY CLRNC WITH CTLR IF ONLY ONE OF US HEARS THE CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.