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Attributes | |
ACN | 592651 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mia.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 592651 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 592653 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Narrative:
Looking over the approach plates for mia just prior to descent, it came to our attention that the new runway was not depicted on our arrival procedure. On further examination, it became obvious that the runway numbering for mia would cause confusion. Case in point: we were cleared to land on runway 9L. The close parallel runway numbered 8 is actually the left runway. One does not see the number until on short final during the day and not until flare at night. It is one thing for us who use english as our primary language. I believe we are putting an unnecessary burden on those for whom english is a second or third language. Further, the numbering is not standard. If one goes to other airports with multiple parallel numbers, ie, den, dfw, dtw, etc, one finds that the close parallels always have the same number. This is not an accident looking for a place to happen. The place is found! It is just a matter of time before someone confuses the runways here in mia.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW EXPRESSED FRUSTRATION REGARDING NEW RWY IDENT AT MIA.
Narrative: LOOKING OVER THE APCH PLATES FOR MIA JUST PRIOR TO DSCNT, IT CAME TO OUR ATTN THAT THE NEW RWY WAS NOT DEPICTED ON OUR ARR PROC. ON FURTHER EXAMINATION, IT BECAME OBVIOUS THAT THE RWY NUMBERING FOR MIA WOULD CAUSE CONFUSION. CASE IN POINT: WE WERE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 9L. THE CLOSE PARALLEL RWY NUMBERED 8 IS ACTUALLY THE L RWY. ONE DOES NOT SEE THE NUMBER UNTIL ON SHORT FINAL DURING THE DAY AND NOT UNTIL FLARE AT NIGHT. IT IS ONE THING FOR US WHO USE ENGLISH AS OUR PRIMARY LANGUAGE. I BELIEVE WE ARE PUTTING AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN ON THOSE FOR WHOM ENGLISH IS A SECOND OR THIRD LANGUAGE. FURTHER, THE NUMBERING IS NOT STANDARD. IF ONE GOES TO OTHER ARPTS WITH MULTIPLE PARALLEL NUMBERS, IE, DEN, DFW, DTW, ETC, ONE FINDS THAT THE CLOSE PARALLELS ALWAYS HAVE THE SAME NUMBER. THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HAPPEN. THE PLACE IS FOUND! IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE SOMEONE CONFUSES THE RWYS HERE IN MIA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.