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Attributes | |
ACN | 594380 |
Time | |
Date | 200309 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 26r other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 27l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 594380 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On vector to ILS runway 26R atl at 5000 ft MSL just outside freal to localizer approximately heading 210 degrees, controller said 'air carrier X 180 degrees.' we started a turn to 180 degrees which took us through the localizer. At that time controller cleared us to 4500 ft right turn 310 degree intercept the localizer. We were higher than, and behind, an ATR flying to runway 27L ILS. I don't consider this a near miss since we had a visual and 1500 ft separation. We were then told heading 310 degrees altitude 5000 ft. We thought the controller was breaking us out because we now crossed the localizer again. Then the controller gave us another heading a lower altitude and cleared us for the approach. We were in visual conditions, but not in sight of the airport. We expedited our descent and made an uneventful approach from outside the OM. Just prior to our approach the controller was having some difficulty communicating with a flight in front of us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 MISSED INBOUND TURN TO LOC AT ATL RESULTING IN POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH PARALLEL TFC.
Narrative: ON VECTOR TO ILS RWY 26R ATL AT 5000 FT MSL JUST OUTSIDE FREAL TO LOC APPROX HEADING 210 DEGS, CTLR SAID 'ACR X 180 DEGS.' WE STARTED A TURN TO 180 DEGS WHICH TOOK US THROUGH THE LOC. AT THAT TIME CTLR CLRED US TO 4500 FT R TURN 310 DEG INTERCEPT THE LOC. WE WERE HIGHER THAN, AND BEHIND, AN ATR FLYING TO RWY 27L ILS. I DON'T CONSIDER THIS A NEAR MISS SINCE WE HAD A VISUAL AND 1500 FT SEPARATION. WE WERE THEN TOLD HEADING 310 DEGS ALT 5000 FT. WE THOUGHT THE CTLR WAS BREAKING US OUT BECAUSE WE NOW CROSSED THE LOC AGAIN. THEN THE CTLR GAVE US ANOTHER HEADING A LOWER ALT AND CLRED US FOR THE APCH. WE WERE IN VISUAL CONDITIONS, BUT NOT IN SIGHT OF THE ARPT. WE EXPEDITED OUR DSCNT AND MADE AN UNEVENTFUL APCH FROM OUTSIDE THE OM. JUST PRIOR TO OUR APCH THE CTLR WAS HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY COMMUNICATING WITH A FLT IN FRONT OF US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.