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While attempting to pass DC9 in tight quarters at departure end of runway in msp, flight crew of B733 nearly taxied onto runway without clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 595509 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200310 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
| State Reference | MN |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | DC-9 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Long line for takeoff. Due to our edict we were given clearance to go to front of departure line. A DC9 was #1 and was very close to departure end. Tower asked if we had enough room to bypass the DC9, which we did and we acknowledged so. As captain was taxiing around the DC9 and looking to ensure wingtip clearance, he thought a position and hold was given. As we approached hold short line, at the same time the female first officer in the DC9 said 'stop aircraft X' over the radio. Captain abruptly stopped airplane with nosewheel estimated just before hold short, but radome was over. Aircraft was landing runway 30R at the time, and was on about 1 mi final when this occurred. Aircraft landed and our plane was cleared into position. Flight progressed normally from then on. Tower said nothing regarding our hold short position.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE ATTEMPTING TO PASS DC9 IN TIGHT QUARTERS AT DEP END OF RWY IN MSP, FLT CREW OF B733 NEARLY TAXIED ONTO RWY WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: LONG LINE FOR TKOF. DUE TO OUR EDICT WE WERE GIVEN CLRNC TO GO TO FRONT OF DEP LINE. A DC9 WAS #1 AND WAS VERY CLOSE TO DEP END. TWR ASKED IF WE HAD ENOUGH ROOM TO BYPASS THE DC9, WHICH WE DID AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED SO. AS CAPT WAS TAXIING AROUND THE DC9 AND LOOKING TO ENSURE WINGTIP CLRNC, HE THOUGHT A POS AND HOLD WAS GIVEN. AS WE APCHED HOLD SHORT LINE, AT THE SAME TIME THE FEMALE FO IN THE DC9 SAID 'STOP ACFT X' OVER THE RADIO. CAPT ABRUPTLY STOPPED AIRPLANE WITH NOSEWHEEL ESTIMATED JUST BEFORE HOLD SHORT, BUT RADOME WAS OVER. ACFT WAS LNDG RWY 30R AT THE TIME, AND WAS ON ABOUT 1 MI FINAL WHEN THIS OCCURRED. ACFT LANDED AND OUR PLANE WAS CLRED INTO POS. FLT PROGRESSED NORMALLY FROM THEN ON. TWR SAID NOTHING REGARDING OUR HOLD SHORT POS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.