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Attributes | |
ACN | 596464 |
Time | |
Date | 200310 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sea.vortac |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl single value : 10800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 20 controller radar : 2 |
ASRS Report | 596464 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 13 |
ASRS Report | 596453 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 28200 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was controller in charge, instructor and trainee were working sector 01, low and slow evening arrival push. I evaluated the sector 6 mins before error and felt a d-side was not needed. The instructor/trainee were using speed and vertical to achieve sequencing needed. Error occurred when controller assigned descent to 10000 ft and aircraft X read back 'down to 11000 ft.' then had no mode C readout for 2 mins (computer problem FAA or aircraft unknown). When mode C came back aircraft X read '108', controller then assigned '110' to overtaking aircraft as allowed by manual rules. Aircraft X lost mode C again for 1 min. When mode C came back aircraft X mode C was '109' and error occurred with overtaking aircraft air carrier Y descending to 11000 ft. Contributing factors: 1) hearback/readback 10000 ft versus 11000 ft, 2) mode C no readout air carrier X for 2 mins, then 1 min aircraft or FAA computer -- unknown where problem was and 3) poor radio on aircraft X contributed to hearback error (very scratchy readback) difficult until played tape twice.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZSE CTLR LOST SEPARATION WITH 2 DSNDING ACFT AT APPROX 11000 FT.
Narrative: I WAS CIC, INSTRUCTOR AND TRAINEE WERE WORKING SECTOR 01, LOW AND SLOW EVENING ARR PUSH. I EVALUATED THE SECTOR 6 MINS BEFORE ERROR AND FELT A D-SIDE WAS NOT NEEDED. THE INSTRUCTOR/TRAINEE WERE USING SPD AND VERT TO ACHIEVE SEQUENCING NEEDED. ERROR OCCURRED WHEN CTLR ASSIGNED DSCNT TO 10000 FT AND ACFT X READ BACK 'DOWN TO 11000 FT.' THEN HAD NO MODE C READOUT FOR 2 MINS (COMPUTER PROB FAA OR ACFT UNKNOWN). WHEN MODE C CAME BACK ACFT X READ '108', CTLR THEN ASSIGNED '110' TO OVERTAKING ACFT AS ALLOWED BY MANUAL RULES. ACFT X LOST MODE C AGAIN FOR 1 MIN. WHEN MODE C CAME BACK ACFT X MODE C WAS '109' AND ERROR OCCURRED WITH OVERTAKING ACFT ACR Y DSNDING TO 11000 FT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) HEARBACK/READBACK 10000 FT VERSUS 11000 FT, 2) MODE C NO READOUT ACR X FOR 2 MINS, THEN 1 MIN ACFT OR FAA COMPUTER -- UNKNOWN WHERE PROB WAS AND 3) POOR RADIO ON ACFT X CONTRIBUTED TO HEARBACK ERROR (VERY SCRATCHY READBACK) DIFFICULT UNTIL PLAYED TAPE TWICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.