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Attributes | |
ACN | 597409 |
Time | |
Date | 200310 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : crg.vortac |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 1170 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 597409 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : passenger |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other other : uni-ctaf 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Airport |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
We departed crg at XI00 and asked ground if tfr due to airshow was still active. He replied 'no, it ended at XH00.' as per the fdc NOTAM for the day. The tfr was only supposed to be active from XA00-XI00. At XJ00 on a local CTAF we were informed that the tfr had been reactivated, unannounced. At the time of that transmission I was outside the tfr. However, I may have penetrated it at an earlier time. This is a major problem with tfr's. We checked all NOTAMS, followed the rules and then it was reactivated without any warning. There really is no way to prevent this from happening if they keep popping up.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A DEP C172RG CFI INADVERTENTLY PENETRATES A REINSTATED TFR RELATED TO AN AIRSHOW AT CRG, FL.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED CRG AT XI00 AND ASKED GND IF TFR DUE TO AIRSHOW WAS STILL ACTIVE. HE REPLIED 'NO, IT ENDED AT XH00.' AS PER THE FDC NOTAM FOR THE DAY. THE TFR WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE ACTIVE FROM XA00-XI00. AT XJ00 ON A LCL CTAF WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE TFR HAD BEEN REACTIVATED, UNANNOUNCED. AT THE TIME OF THAT XMISSION I WAS OUTSIDE THE TFR. HOWEVER, I MAY HAVE PENETRATED IT AT AN EARLIER TIME. THIS IS A MAJOR PROB WITH TFR'S. WE CHKED ALL NOTAMS, FOLLOWED THE RULES AND THEN IT WAS REACTIVATED WITHOUT ANY WARNING. THERE REALLY IS NO WAY TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING IF THEY KEEP POPPING UP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.