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Attributes | |
ACN | 597877 |
Time | |
Date | 200310 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Do 328 TJ (Turbojet) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 7800 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 597877 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 598036 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : person 3 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company FAA Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Aircraft tipped on tail due to full baggage compartment. No people on board, light fuel load. FAA requested weight and balance form for previous flight. We used approved average weight system to do the weight and balance. FAA weighed baggage and we had more weight than I showed on the form, resulting in an above gross weight number. However due to actual fuel burn before departure, I believe we were under the maximum takeoff gross weight. In addition, when I looked at actual passenger weight, the numbers were much closer to being within limits.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER DEPLANING PAX AT THE GATE, THE D328 TIPPED ONTO ITS TAIL. INVESTIGATION BY FAA SHOWED BAGGAGE WT EXCEEDED TOTAL DETERMINED USING AVERAGE BAGGAGE WT METHOD. ALSO, BY IMPLICATION, DETERMINED THAT TKOF FOR PREVIOUS FLT HAD BEEN ABOVE MATOG. RPTR DISPUTES THAT FINDING.
Narrative: ACFT TIPPED ON TAIL DUE TO FULL BAGGAGE COMPARTMENT. NO PEOPLE ON BOARD, LIGHT FUEL LOAD. FAA REQUESTED WT AND BAL FORM FOR PREVIOUS FLT. WE USED APPROVED AVERAGE WT SYS TO DO THE WT AND BAL. FAA WEIGHED BAGGAGE AND WE HAD MORE WT THAN I SHOWED ON THE FORM, RESULTING IN AN ABOVE GROSS WT NUMBER. HOWEVER DUE TO ACTUAL FUEL BURN BEFORE DEP, I BELIEVE WE WERE UNDER THE MAX TKOF GROSS WT. IN ADDITION, WHEN I LOOKED AT ACTUAL PAX WT, THE NUMBERS WERE MUCH CLOSER TO BEING WITHIN LIMITS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.