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An air carrier captain reports being asked to accept a departure in non compliance with rest requirements by a crew scheduler who reports that he is required by policy to ask all crews in order to maintain schedule integrity.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 598918 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : parked |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 598918 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel other |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
My crew arrived quite late into las due to WX related delays in and out of ord. As instructed, I contacted the crew scheduler after checking into my room. I reached them at about XA55 to discuss the departure of our obviously late departure. The scheduler then asked me if we could depart on time (scheduled at XI15) to keep schedule integrity. After I exclaimed as to the time he was referring to, his response was, 'captain, I am required to ask all crews.' I then remarked about the legality of his suggestion, and he seemed indifferent. The crew scheduled should not be asking any crew to unknowingly or unwittingly violate FARS regarding minimum crew rest. Doesn't the crew desk computer automatically show the minimum rest time before the next day's flight? We departed at XL00 after our legal 9 hours at the hotel.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR CAPT RPTS BEING ASKED TO ACCEPT A DEP IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH REST REQUIREMENTS BY A CREW SCHEDULER WHO RPTS THAT HE IS REQUIRED BY POLICY TO ASK ALL CREWS IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN SCHEDULE INTEGRITY.
Narrative: MY CREW ARRIVED QUITE LATE INTO LAS DUE TO WX RELATED DELAYS IN AND OUT OF ORD. AS INSTRUCTED, I CONTACTED THE CREW SCHEDULER AFTER CHKING INTO MY ROOM. I REACHED THEM AT ABOUT XA55 TO DISCUSS THE DEP OF OUR OBVIOUSLY LATE DEP. THE SCHEDULER THEN ASKED ME IF WE COULD DEPART ON TIME (SCHEDULED AT XI15) TO KEEP SCHEDULE INTEGRITY. AFTER I EXCLAIMED AS TO THE TIME HE WAS REFERRING TO, HIS RESPONSE WAS, 'CAPT, I AM REQUIRED TO ASK ALL CREWS.' I THEN REMARKED ABOUT THE LEGALITY OF HIS SUGGESTION, AND HE SEEMED INDIFFERENT. THE CREW SCHEDULED SHOULD NOT BE ASKING ANY CREW TO UNKNOWINGLY OR UNWITTINGLY VIOLATE FARS REGARDING MINIMUM CREW REST. DOESN'T THE CREW DESK COMPUTER AUTOMATICALLY SHOW THE MINIMUM REST TIME BEFORE THE NEXT DAY'S FLT? WE DEPARTED AT XL00 AFTER OUR LEGAL 9 HRS AT THE HOTEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.