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Crew rest seats on the B767 used in extended range operations are criticized as inadequate. Proposed solutions are offered.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 599319 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200311 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zfw.artcc |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : relief pilot |
| ASRS Report | 599319 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
The type of crew rest seat and location on the B767 does not provide adequate opportunity for the pilot to obtain quality rest. With the increase passenger in business class, there is no increase in the noise level, more people, more noise. When the flight attendants do the meal service, the noise prevents the pilot on break from obtaining rest/sleep. Even with earplugs and the headsets the noise can wake a sleeping person. Also, the seat is very uncomfortable. The leg rest needs to be higher and the seat needs to recline further. This trip was completed due to needs to recline further. This trip was completed due to the fact that we had 4 pilots on board which made this situation barely adequate. I would recommend getting proper seats and located in a quite area or adding bunks to these all-night flts. If that is not possible, then add the 4TH pilot, which enables a safer relief situation and safer flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CREW REST SEATS ON THE B767 USED IN EXTENDED RANGE OPS ARE CRITICIZED AS INADEQUATE. PROPOSED SOLUTIONS ARE OFFERED.
Narrative: THE TYPE OF CREW REST SEAT AND LOCATION ON THE B767 DOES NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLT TO OBTAIN QUALITY REST. WITH THE INCREASE PAX IN BUSINESS CLASS, THERE IS NO INCREASE IN THE NOISE LEVEL, MORE PEOPLE, MORE NOISE. WHEN THE FLT ATTENDANTS DO THE MEAL SVC, THE NOISE PREVENTS THE PLT ON BREAK FROM OBTAINING REST/SLEEP. EVEN WITH EARPLUGS AND THE HEADSETS THE NOISE CAN WAKE A SLEEPING PERSON. ALSO, THE SEAT IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE. THE LEG REST NEEDS TO BE HIGHER AND THE SEAT NEEDS TO RECLINE FURTHER. THIS TRIP WAS COMPLETED DUE TO NEEDS TO RECLINE FURTHER. THIS TRIP WAS COMPLETED DUE TO THE FACT THAT WE HAD 4 PLTS ON BOARD WHICH MADE THIS SIT BARELY ADEQUATE. I WOULD RECOMMEND GETTING PROPER SEATS AND LOCATED IN A QUITE AREA OR ADDING BUNKS TO THESE ALL-NIGHT FLTS. IF THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE, THEN ADD THE 4TH PLT, WHICH ENABLES A SAFER RELIEF SIT AND SAFER FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.