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Attributes | |
ACN | 600313 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Fri |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pou.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 2800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
ASRS Report | 600313 |
Person 2 | |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
This happened over 6 months ago, but I just now realized what did happen. I was doing IFR currency practice and was receiving vectors for the VOR approach to pou. I turned inbound to course 217 degrees (R037) as published. After a brief, but confusing conversation with the controller, he told me I'd botched the approach and he was going to vector me around for another try. Okay (shrug). After being chewed out again on the second approach, my instructor and I realized the controller was trying to get us inbound on R062 (course 242), lined up with final approach runway 24. Okay, fine, whatever. Reviewing pou plates for tonight's flight, I realized there's a VOR-a and VOR-DME/GPS runway 24. We were likely on a different page. Just one of those things. I've no idea how to systematically prevent except to redouble efforts to be alert.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 STUDENT, FLYING WITH HIS CFI, FLEW THE WRONG APCH TO POU.
Narrative: THIS HAPPENED OVER 6 MONTHS AGO, BUT I JUST NOW REALIZED WHAT DID HAPPEN. I WAS DOING IFR CURRENCY PRACTICE AND WAS RECEIVING VECTORS FOR THE VOR APCH TO POU. I TURNED INBOUND TO COURSE 217 DEGS (R037) AS PUBLISHED. AFTER A BRIEF, BUT CONFUSING CONVERSATION WITH THE CTLR, HE TOLD ME I'D BOTCHED THE APCH AND HE WAS GOING TO VECTOR ME AROUND FOR ANOTHER TRY. OKAY (SHRUG). AFTER BEING CHEWED OUT AGAIN ON THE SECOND APCH, MY INSTRUCTOR AND I REALIZED THE CTLR WAS TRYING TO GET US INBOUND ON R062 (COURSE 242), LINED UP WITH FINAL APCH RWY 24. OKAY, FINE, WHATEVER. REVIEWING POU PLATES FOR TONIGHT'S FLT, I REALIZED THERE'S A VOR-A AND VOR-DME/GPS RWY 24. WE WERE LIKELY ON A DIFFERENT PAGE. JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS. I'VE NO IDEA HOW TO SYSTEMATICALLY PREVENT EXCEPT TO REDOUBLE EFFORTS TO BE ALERT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.