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Attributes | |
ACN | 601146 |
Time | |
Date | 200312 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 601146 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On taxi out, pushed off onto taxiway K. Straight back push, normal taxi routing to runway 22/21 is northbound. Ground controller directed taxi to runway 22R txwys K, K8, Y8, runway 22L, follow air carrier connection on taxiway a. First officer was confused with clearance, asked for repeat, taxi began txwys K, K8, Y8 -- at this point we looked right (north) saw air carrier connection moving right to left in distance turned onto runway and asked for clarification, as there was a second air carrier DC9 taxiing behind connection. Controller advised wrong way. He needed a 180 degree on runway join A5 to taxiway a then join behind air carrier connection. Confusion due in part to abnormal taxi routing based on 27 runways in use, and omission of A5 sequence in first transmission of taxi route. With our pushoff C2 it would seem a right turn taxiway K, to join A5 would have been a less confusing taxi route and kept us off a runway. Fortunately due to runway 27 operations the runway was not in use and no conflict occurred, early visual citing of aircraft to follow and lack of A5 caused confusion, coupled with northern taxi patterns used under normal operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 FLT CREW BECOMES CONFUSED WITH TAXI INSTRUCTIONS AND ENTERS THE RWY AT DTW.
Narrative: ON TAXI OUT, PUSHED OFF ONTO TXWY K. STRAIGHT BACK PUSH, NORMAL TAXI ROUTING TO RWY 22/21 IS NBOUND. GND CTLR DIRECTED TAXI TO RWY 22R TXWYS K, K8, Y8, RWY 22L, FOLLOW ACR CONNECTION ON TXWY A. FO WAS CONFUSED WITH CLRNC, ASKED FOR REPEAT, TAXI BEGAN TXWYS K, K8, Y8 -- AT THIS POINT WE LOOKED R (N) SAW ACR CONNECTION MOVING R TO L IN DISTANCE TURNED ONTO RWY AND ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION, AS THERE WAS A SECOND ACR DC9 TAXIING BEHIND CONNECTION. CTLR ADVISED WRONG WAY. HE NEEDED A 180 DEG ON RWY JOIN A5 TO TXWY A THEN JOIN BEHIND ACR CONNECTION. CONFUSION DUE IN PART TO ABNORMAL TAXI ROUTING BASED ON 27 RWYS IN USE, AND OMISSION OF A5 SEQUENCE IN FIRST XMISSION OF TAXI RTE. WITH OUR PUSHOFF C2 IT WOULD SEEM A R TURN TXWY K, TO JOIN A5 WOULD HAVE BEEN A LESS CONFUSING TAXI RTE AND KEPT US OFF A RWY. FORTUNATELY DUE TO RWY 27 OPS THE RWY WAS NOT IN USE AND NO CONFLICT OCCURRED, EARLY VISUAL CITING OF ACFT TO FOLLOW AND LACK OF A5 CAUSED CONFUSION, COUPLED WITH NORTHERN TAXI PATTERNS USED UNDER NORMAL OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.