Astra 1125 flight crew fails to turn at a sufficient rate to clearly avoid a restr area on departure...

Attributes
ACN	601347
Time
Date	200312
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : crq.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 12000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : sct.tracon
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	IAI1125 (Astra)
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 80
ASRS Report	601347
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 80
ASRS Report	601950
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllerb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Because of our passenger's apprehensions of flight I selected the 1/2 bank mode on the flight director. We were departing crq and receiving vectors from socal. Without our knowledge we were being vectored close to a restr area north of our departure point. In the middle of the 3RD or 4TH vector, we were advised by ATC that we were getting too close to the restr area. We were issued another vector and asked to tighten our turn. I took the flight director off of the 1/2 bank mode and turned at a standard rate turn. After rolling out on that turn, he then gave us directions to turn immediately 30 degrees further right to avoid the restr area. When we rolled out on that heading, he said we could continue on course and, in the future, to make our turns out of crq tighter. It seemed that the controller was not monitoring our flight closely enough and panicked when he saw us getting too close to the restr area.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ASTRA 1125 FLT CREW FAILS TO TURN AT A SUFFICIENT RATE TO CLRLY AVOID A RESTR AREA ON DEP FROM CRQ.

Narrative: BECAUSE OF OUR PAX'S APPREHENSIONS OF FLT I SELECTED THE 1/2 BANK MODE ON THE FLT DIRECTOR. WE WERE DEPARTING CRQ AND RECEIVING VECTORS FROM SOCAL. WITHOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE WE WERE BEING VECTORED CLOSE TO A RESTR AREA N OF OUR DEP POINT. IN THE MIDDLE OF THE 3RD OR 4TH VECTOR, WE WERE ADVISED BY ATC THAT WE WERE GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE RESTR AREA. WE WERE ISSUED ANOTHER VECTOR AND ASKED TO TIGHTEN OUR TURN. I TOOK THE FLT DIRECTOR OFF OF THE 1/2 BANK MODE AND TURNED AT A STANDARD RATE TURN. AFTER ROLLING OUT ON THAT TURN, HE THEN GAVE US DIRECTIONS TO TURN IMMEDIATELY 30 DEGS FURTHER R TO AVOID THE RESTR AREA. WHEN WE ROLLED OUT ON THAT HEADING, HE SAID WE COULD CONTINUE ON COURSE AND, IN THE FUTURE, TO MAKE OUR TURNS OUT OF CRQ TIGHTER. IT SEEMED THAT THE CTLR WAS NOT MONITORING OUR FLT CLOSELY ENOUGH AND PANICKED WHEN HE SAW US GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE RESTR AREA.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Astra 1125 flight crew fails to turn at a sufficient rate to clearly avoid a restr area on departure from crq.