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Attributes | |
ACN | 601545 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-500 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 20100 flight time type : 7708 |
ASRS Report | 601545 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Proceeding direct to ord, talking to ZAU on 125.57, FL370, captain was the PNF, first officer was the PF. Cleared 'pilot's discretion' to FL330. Later cleared 'descend now' to FL350. As we approached FL350, cleared to contact ZAU 124.55. Passing FL343, checked in, descending to FL330. Advised by controller to climb to FL350. I reported level at FL350 and requested controller check with previous controller on 125.57 to confirm we were cleared 'pilot's discretion' to FL330. Controller said previous controller denied issuing 'pilot's discretion' to FL330. She requested we call upon landing. Arrived at gate at XB15. At XB30 spoke with mr X, the shift quality assurance manager, and relayed the above events. I asked him to listen to the tapes and advised I would call him back. At XC30 mr X advised me he had spoken with the 125.57 controller and this controller again denied issuing the 'pilot's discretion' to FL330. The tapes proved that we were indeed cleared to FL330 pilot's discretion. I called back at XD00 after mr X had listened to the 124.55 tapes. He advised me we had complied with all issued clrncs. Mr X advised me that my radar tag had been left at FL350, not FL330 for the handoff, as it should have been, based upon issued clrncs. He advised me that this was an ATC issue, and statements were being taken from both controllers. No action to be taken towards crew. Human factors issues: event happened at XA45. No TA's or RA's. Safety not compromised.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW IS QUESTIONED REGARDING ALT ASSIGNMENT DSNDING INTO ORD ON ZAU FREQ.
Narrative: PROCEEDING DIRECT TO ORD, TALKING TO ZAU ON 125.57, FL370, CAPT WAS THE PNF, FO WAS THE PF. CLRED 'PLT'S DISCRETION' TO FL330. LATER CLRED 'DSND NOW' TO FL350. AS WE APCHED FL350, CLRED TO CONTACT ZAU 124.55. PASSING FL343, CHKED IN, DSNDING TO FL330. ADVISED BY CTLR TO CLB TO FL350. I RPTED LEVEL AT FL350 AND REQUESTED CTLR CHK WITH PREVIOUS CTLR ON 125.57 TO CONFIRM WE WERE CLRED 'PLT'S DISCRETION' TO FL330. CTLR SAID PREVIOUS CTLR DENIED ISSUING 'PLT'S DISCRETION' TO FL330. SHE REQUESTED WE CALL UPON LNDG. ARRIVED AT GATE AT XB15. AT XB30 SPOKE WITH MR X, THE SHIFT QUALITY ASSURANCE MGR, AND RELAYED THE ABOVE EVENTS. I ASKED HIM TO LISTEN TO THE TAPES AND ADVISED I WOULD CALL HIM BACK. AT XC30 MR X ADVISED ME HE HAD SPOKEN WITH THE 125.57 CTLR AND THIS CTLR AGAIN DENIED ISSUING THE 'PLT'S DISCRETION' TO FL330. THE TAPES PROVED THAT WE WERE INDEED CLRED TO FL330 PLT'S DISCRETION. I CALLED BACK AT XD00 AFTER MR X HAD LISTENED TO THE 124.55 TAPES. HE ADVISED ME WE HAD COMPLIED WITH ALL ISSUED CLRNCS. MR X ADVISED ME THAT MY RADAR TAG HAD BEEN LEFT AT FL350, NOT FL330 FOR THE HDOF, AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, BASED UPON ISSUED CLRNCS. HE ADVISED ME THAT THIS WAS AN ATC ISSUE, AND STATEMENTS WERE BEING TAKEN FROM BOTH CTLRS. NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN TOWARDS CREW. HUMAN FACTORS ISSUES: EVENT HAPPENED AT XA45. NO TA'S OR RA'S. SAFETY NOT COMPROMISED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.