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Attributes | |
ACN | 601873 |
Time | |
Date | 200312 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : fqf.vortac |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Snow Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation V |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : quail |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 31 flight time total : 20200 flight time type : 726 |
ASRS Report | 601873 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 36000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Part 91 IFR on the QUAIL4 STAR to apa. ZDV cleared us to cross quail at 12000 ft. The PF programmed the vertical navigation mode for the restr. I was updating the ATIS as the WX was dropping rapidly. The PF told me he was having a problem programming the VNAV mode, so I began to help with the problem. The system was set to cross the destination airport, not quail at 12000 ft. I began to reprogram the VNAV correctly when the ZDV controller asked if we were going to be able to make the restr. At this time we were leaving FL240, 3 mins from the fix. We said no but we could come close. The controller told us he would check if den TRACON could 'take the handoff' the next transmission was for us to contact den approach. On call up I reported out of 14500 ft for 12000 ft. Denver approach told us to turn right immediately to a heading 350 degrees and to maintain 14000 ft. We were at 14100 ft, and leveled at 14000 ft. The TCASII showed a target that went from 9 NM to 6 NM at 11 O'clock position, 1000 ft below. No TA was received. When we were clear of that traffic, we proceeded normally to land. I think the problems were distrs caused by the automation and WX leading to a lose of situational awareness of our distance to the restr and altitude to be lost. Something that can be done between the ears, as well as with the 'box.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C560 DSNDING INTO DEN IS UNABLE TO ADHERE TO PUBLISHED XING ALT BECAUSE OF PROGRAMMING DIFFICULTY.
Narrative: PART 91 IFR ON THE QUAIL4 STAR TO APA. ZDV CLRED US TO CROSS QUAIL AT 12000 FT. THE PF PROGRAMMED THE VERT NAV MODE FOR THE RESTR. I WAS UPDATING THE ATIS AS THE WX WAS DROPPING RAPIDLY. THE PF TOLD ME HE WAS HAVING A PROB PROGRAMMING THE VNAV MODE, SO I BEGAN TO HELP WITH THE PROB. THE SYS WAS SET TO CROSS THE DEST ARPT, NOT QUAIL AT 12000 FT. I BEGAN TO REPROGRAM THE VNAV CORRECTLY WHEN THE ZDV CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE RESTR. AT THIS TIME WE WERE LEAVING FL240, 3 MINS FROM THE FIX. WE SAID NO BUT WE COULD COME CLOSE. THE CTLR TOLD US HE WOULD CHK IF DEN TRACON COULD 'TAKE THE HDOF' THE NEXT XMISSION WAS FOR US TO CONTACT DEN APCH. ON CALL UP I RPTED OUT OF 14500 FT FOR 12000 FT. DENVER APCH TOLD US TO TURN R IMMEDIATELY TO A HEADING 350 DEGS AND TO MAINTAIN 14000 FT. WE WERE AT 14100 FT, AND LEVELED AT 14000 FT. THE TCASII SHOWED A TARGET THAT WENT FROM 9 NM TO 6 NM AT 11 O'CLOCK POS, 1000 FT BELOW. NO TA WAS RECEIVED. WHEN WE WERE CLR OF THAT TFC, WE PROCEEDED NORMALLY TO LAND. I THINK THE PROBS WERE DISTRS CAUSED BY THE AUTOMATION AND WX LEADING TO A LOSE OF SITUATIONAL AWARENESS OF OUR DISTANCE TO THE RESTR AND ALT TO BE LOST. SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE BTWN THE EARS, AS WELL AS WITH THE 'BOX.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.