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Attributes | |
ACN | 602031 |
Time | |
Date | 200312 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7700 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : grnpa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 260 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 602031 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 602171 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to cross luxor intersection on the grnpa one RNAV arrival into las at 12000 ft, expecting and briefed for a visual approach and landing on runway 25R. Prior to reaching 12000 ft and or luxor, we were reclred to proceed direct to the las VOR, maintain 12000 ft, expect visual runway 1L. While programming the FMC and re-briefing the approach to the new runway, we were again given a new clearance for a turn off the direct course to the VOR, a descent, and a speed restr. The new course, speed and an altitude of 5000 ft were set in the MCP window and confirmed by both crew members. Descending through 8000 ft, the controller issued a TA to which the PNF (captain) responded 'looking.' descending through 7800 ft almost simultaneously we received a TCASII RA to 'reduce descent' and the controller told us to climb to 8000 ft for traffic. We immediately complied with both commands and climbed from 7700 ft back up to 8000 ft. The captain then queried the controller about our altitude clearance, which both pilots understood to be 5000 ft. The controller stated that we were cleared to 8000 ft, and then gave us another heading and frequency change. Upon arrival at las, we were instructed to phone the las TRACON for a possible pilot deviation. The TRACON manager informed us that the tapes had already been reviewed. He stated that he heard the clearance as 'turn 5 degrees left, descend to 9000 ft, slow to 210 KTS' and heard the captain repeat the clearance to 9000 ft. He further pointed out that the clearance appeared to have been incorrectly stated as 'nine' thousand rather than 'nine-er' thousand. Contributing factors to this incident included multiple clrncs/vectors off the charted arrival procedure, high workload reprogramming and re-briefing a new approach close to the airport, and multiple instructions in one clearance by the controller, possibly including a clearance using incorrect phraseology. The aircraft was programmed with the altitude both crew members thought they had heard in the clearance. If the clearance to 9000 ft was indeed read back correctly, I can only assume that the high workload created in complying with several multi-part clrncs caused the confusion that resulted in us remembering, setting and confirming the incorrect altitude of 5000 ft in the MCP panel. Further considerations for the crew included the fact that there were high winds at las (up to 31 KT crosswind gusts) and subsequent atypical runway in use. The airline had also recently changed to a new terminal/gate at the airport with unfamiliar runway exit and taxi considerations all of which needed to be briefed prior to landing. It was a clear day with unrestr visibility, and since the new runway had no vertical or horizontal guidance, we had programmed the glide path into the FMC that showed an altitude of 5200 ft at 10 mi from the runway. For this reason, the clearance to 5000 ft seemed reasonable. We wondered about the fact that when the controller issued the traffic alert, he said nothing about our altitude, which was already a thousand ft below the supposed assigned altitude of 9000 ft and continuing descent. When queried, the controller seemed confused about the assigned altitude as well. The error was discovered only because of the TCASII RA and loss of vertical separation with the traffic. Corrections were to comply immediately with both TCASII and controller instructions, reducing descent rate and then climbing to 8000 ft. Ideas for preventing recurrence and or correcting the situation include: controllers need to limit the number of instructions given in 1 clearance, and also the number of 're-clrncs' that increase pilot workload, especially during more critical points in the descent and approach (or takeoff and climb) phase of the flight. Use of proper phraseology -- 'nine-er' versus 'nine' also reduces potential for confusion. By adhering to the charted procedures, altitude and speed restrs can be anticipated, briefed, and programmed into FMC's when available, thereby reducing pilot and controller workload and also giving pilots a 'gauge' to determine if a clearance seems unreasonable or incorrect. Clrncs off of charted rtes, although fairly standard procedure, increase the possibility of speed and altdevs and also the risk of inadequate terrain clearance in mountainous terrain when IMC. Our current company procedure requires the PF to set all MCP changes when the autoplt is engaged, but several other companies have the PNF set the altitude in the alerter at the time he or she is accepting the clearance. Since the PF already has to set heading, speed, and MCP mode and monitor the aircraft, this provides one less critical item/duty for the PF and therefore one less possibility of error. Lastly, through another source, we found out that the las TRACON had at least 9 violations generated the same day. While we have no specific details about the violations, and therefore cannot speculate on the causes, that seemed like an abnormally high number.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 ARR TO LAS DSNDS BELOW ASSIGNED ALT CONFLICTING WITH TFC.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS LUXOR INTXN ON THE GRNPA ONE RNAV ARR INTO LAS AT 12000 FT, EXPECTING AND BRIEFED FOR A VISUAL APCH AND LNDG ON RWY 25R. PRIOR TO REACHING 12000 FT AND OR LUXOR, WE WERE RECLRED TO PROCEED DIRECT TO THE LAS VOR, MAINTAIN 12000 FT, EXPECT VISUAL RWY 1L. WHILE PROGRAMMING THE FMC AND RE-BRIEFING THE APCH TO THE NEW RWY, WE WERE AGAIN GIVEN A NEW CLRNC FOR A TURN OFF THE DIRECT COURSE TO THE VOR, A DSCNT, AND A SPD RESTR. THE NEW COURSE, SPD AND AN ALT OF 5000 FT WERE SET IN THE MCP WINDOW AND CONFIRMED BY BOTH CREW MEMBERS. DSNDING THROUGH 8000 FT, THE CTLR ISSUED A TA TO WHICH THE PNF (CAPT) RESPONDED 'LOOKING.' DSNDING THROUGH 7800 FT ALMOST SIMULTANEOUSLY WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA TO 'REDUCE DSCNT' AND THE CTLR TOLD US TO CLB TO 8000 FT FOR TFC. WE IMMEDIATELY COMPLIED WITH BOTH COMMANDS AND CLBED FROM 7700 FT BACK UP TO 8000 FT. THE CAPT THEN QUERIED THE CTLR ABOUT OUR ALT CLRNC, WHICH BOTH PLTS UNDERSTOOD TO BE 5000 FT. THE CTLR STATED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 8000 FT, AND THEN GAVE US ANOTHER HEADING AND FREQ CHANGE. UPON ARR AT LAS, WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO PHONE THE LAS TRACON FOR A POSSIBLE PLTDEV. THE TRACON MGR INFORMED US THAT THE TAPES HAD ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED. HE STATED THAT HE HEARD THE CLRNC AS 'TURN 5 DEGS L, DSND TO 9000 FT, SLOW TO 210 KTS' AND HEARD THE CAPT REPEAT THE CLRNC TO 9000 FT. HE FURTHER POINTED OUT THAT THE CLRNC APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN INCORRECTLY STATED AS 'NINE' THOUSAND RATHER THAN 'NINE-ER' THOUSAND. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS INCIDENT INCLUDED MULTIPLE CLRNCS/VECTORS OFF THE CHARTED ARR PROC, HIGH WORKLOAD REPROGRAMMING AND RE-BRIEFING A NEW APCH CLOSE TO THE ARPT, AND MULTIPLE INSTRUCTIONS IN ONE CLRNC BY THE CTLR, POSSIBLY INCLUDING A CLRNC USING INCORRECT PHRASEOLOGY. THE ACFT WAS PROGRAMMED WITH THE ALT BOTH CREW MEMBERS THOUGHT THEY HAD HEARD IN THE CLRNC. IF THE CLRNC TO 9000 FT WAS INDEED READ BACK CORRECTLY, I CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THE HIGH WORKLOAD CREATED IN COMPLYING WITH SEVERAL MULTI-PART CLRNCS CAUSED THE CONFUSION THAT RESULTED IN US REMEMBERING, SETTING AND CONFIRMING THE INCORRECT ALT OF 5000 FT IN THE MCP PANEL. FURTHER CONSIDERATIONS FOR THE CREW INCLUDED THE FACT THAT THERE WERE HIGH WINDS AT LAS (UP TO 31 KT XWIND GUSTS) AND SUBSEQUENT ATYPICAL RWY IN USE. THE AIRLINE HAD ALSO RECENTLY CHANGED TO A NEW TERMINAL/GATE AT THE ARPT WITH UNFAMILIAR RWY EXIT AND TAXI CONSIDERATIONS ALL OF WHICH NEEDED TO BE BRIEFED PRIOR TO LNDG. IT WAS A CLR DAY WITH UNRESTR VISIBILITY, AND SINCE THE NEW RWY HAD NO VERT OR HORIZ GUIDANCE, WE HAD PROGRAMMED THE GLIDE PATH INTO THE FMC THAT SHOWED AN ALT OF 5200 FT AT 10 MI FROM THE RWY. FOR THIS REASON, THE CLRNC TO 5000 FT SEEMED REASONABLE. WE WONDERED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WHEN THE CTLR ISSUED THE TFC ALERT, HE SAID NOTHING ABOUT OUR ALT, WHICH WAS ALREADY A THOUSAND FT BELOW THE SUPPOSED ASSIGNED ALT OF 9000 FT AND CONTINUING DSCNT. WHEN QUERIED, THE CTLR SEEMED CONFUSED ABOUT THE ASSIGNED ALT AS WELL. THE ERROR WAS DISCOVERED ONLY BECAUSE OF THE TCASII RA AND LOSS OF VERT SEPARATION WITH THE TFC. CORRECTIONS WERE TO COMPLY IMMEDIATELY WITH BOTH TCASII AND CTLR INSTRUCTIONS, REDUCING DSCNT RATE AND THEN CLBING TO 8000 FT. IDEAS FOR PREVENTING RECURRENCE AND OR CORRECTING THE SIT INCLUDE: CTLRS NEED TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN IN 1 CLRNC, AND ALSO THE NUMBER OF 'RE-CLRNCS' THAT INCREASE PLT WORKLOAD, ESPECIALLY DURING MORE CRITICAL POINTS IN THE DSCNT AND APCH (OR TKOF AND CLB) PHASE OF THE FLT. USE OF PROPER PHRASEOLOGY -- 'NINE-ER' VERSUS 'NINE' ALSO REDUCES POTENTIAL FOR CONFUSION. BY ADHERING TO THE CHARTED PROCS, ALT AND SPD RESTRS CAN BE ANTICIPATED, BRIEFED, AND PROGRAMMED INTO FMC'S WHEN AVAILABLE, THEREBY REDUCING PLT AND CTLR WORKLOAD AND ALSO GIVING PLTS A 'GAUGE' TO DETERMINE IF A CLRNC SEEMS UNREASONABLE OR INCORRECT. CLRNCS OFF OF CHARTED RTES, ALTHOUGH FAIRLY STANDARD PROC, INCREASE THE POSSIBILITY OF SPD AND ALTDEVS AND ALSO THE RISK OF INADEQUATE TERRAIN CLRNC IN MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN WHEN IMC. OUR CURRENT COMPANY PROC REQUIRES THE PF TO SET ALL MCP CHANGES WHEN THE AUTOPLT IS ENGAGED, BUT SEVERAL OTHER COMPANIES HAVE THE PNF SET THE ALT IN THE ALERTER AT THE TIME HE OR SHE IS ACCEPTING THE CLRNC. SINCE THE PF ALREADY HAS TO SET HEADING, SPD, AND MCP MODE AND MONITOR THE ACFT, THIS PROVIDES ONE LESS CRITICAL ITEM/DUTY FOR THE PF AND THEREFORE ONE LESS POSSIBILITY OF ERROR. LASTLY, THROUGH ANOTHER SOURCE, WE FOUND OUT THAT THE LAS TRACON HAD AT LEAST 9 VIOLATIONS GENERATED THE SAME DAY. WHILE WE HAVE NO SPECIFIC DETAILS ABOUT THE VIOLATIONS, AND THEREFORE CANNOT SPECULATE ON THE CAUSES, THAT SEEMED LIKE AN ABNORMALLY HIGH NUMBER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.