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Attributes | |
ACN | 602136 |
Time | |
Date | 200312 |
Day | Sun |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NV |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival star : tyssn |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
ASRS Report | 602136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : fmc legs page other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
LNAV glitch noted several times, often in vicinity las: one or both VOR's will lock onto invalid VOR frequency, 108.0, while in 'automatic,' and stay there. If both VOR's do this at same time, the 'rnp (required navigation performance)/actual' (as shown on the 'legs' page) will start to increase, sometimes exceeding 2.00, which then obligates pilots to discontinue the RNAV approach or departure. Suspect this occurs because of a lack of 'good' VOR's in the area, especially at lower altitudes, combined with strong radio signal on that frequency, from local radio station. Usually can get this to clear by cycling from 'navigation' to 'VOR/ILS' and back on the HSI switch which seems to reinitiate the automatic search mode. Easy to miss unless monitoring 'rnp/actual' or if flying an older aircraft with audio bleedover from VOR into communication system. Not sure this is a problem in '-700' aircraft with GPS. Suspect the 'fix' for this is not easy or cheap. Suggest pilots are made aware of the issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CREW HAD THE FMC POS UPDATING DME'S LOCKUP ON 108 PT 0, ALLOWING THE REQUIRED NAV PERFORMANCE 'RNP' TO GO ABOVE THE LIMIT FOR RNAV OP. THIS OCCURS IN THE LAS AREA.
Narrative: LNAV GLITCH NOTED SEVERAL TIMES, OFTEN IN VICINITY LAS: ONE OR BOTH VOR'S WILL LOCK ONTO INVALID VOR FREQ, 108.0, WHILE IN 'AUTO,' AND STAY THERE. IF BOTH VOR'S DO THIS AT SAME TIME, THE 'RNP (REQUIRED NAV PERFORMANCE)/ACTUAL' (AS SHOWN ON THE 'LEGS' PAGE) WILL START TO INCREASE, SOMETIMES EXCEEDING 2.00, WHICH THEN OBLIGATES PLTS TO DISCONTINUE THE RNAV APCH OR DEP. SUSPECT THIS OCCURS BECAUSE OF A LACK OF 'GOOD' VOR'S IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY AT LOWER ALTS, COMBINED WITH STRONG RADIO SIGNAL ON THAT FREQ, FROM LCL RADIO STATION. USUALLY CAN GET THIS TO CLR BY CYCLING FROM 'NAV' TO 'VOR/ILS' AND BACK ON THE HSI SWITCH WHICH SEEMS TO REINITIATE THE AUTO SEARCH MODE. EASY TO MISS UNLESS MONITORING 'RNP/ACTUAL' OR IF FLYING AN OLDER ACFT WITH AUDIO BLEEDOVER FROM VOR INTO COM SYS. NOT SURE THIS IS A PROB IN '-700' ACFT WITH GPS. SUSPECT THE 'FIX' FOR THIS IS NOT EASY OR CHEAP. SUGGEST PLTS ARE MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.