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Attributes | |
ACN | 606252 |
Time | |
Date | 200401 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Snow Ice |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon tower : ord.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 32 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : n/s |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 8 controller time certified in position1 : 2 |
ASRS Report | 606252 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 15600 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Cincinnati was IFR with freezing conditions. Runways were being deiced and PIREPS for braking actions were being solicited. Freight B727 inbound from flm VOR requested runway 27, though we were landing runways 18L/right. Arrival controller was vectoring B727 for a downwind to runway 27 and had coordinated this with me (departure controller). A departure came off runway 18L. JS32 was told to climb and maintain 8000 ft 'twice' and turned to a heading of 090 degrees (again had to be told twice). With other smaller aircraft in my airspace at 5000 ft, 6000 ft, and 7000 ft, I was climbing the JS32 to top this traffic. The arrival controller, having coordination with one preceded, to descend the B727 to 7000 ft. When I saw the B727 descending, I immediately told the JS32 to turn right heading 180 degrees, pointed out traffic and when he responded that he didn't have the traffic in sight, I told him to turn immediately heading 180 degrees. He finally turned when he got an RA alert. While the problems that occurred were my assumption that the arrival controller was going to stay at 9000 ft (which I didn't ensure). I feel this could have had a better outcome if I hadn't had to repeat myself (my transmission) to the pilot of the JS32. As a controller, it is very frustrating when you are busy or weather is bad, to have to make all your xmissions 2 or 3 times to every plane. This happens frequently and while I know pilots have a lot to accomplish in the cockpit, it seems only logical to me that the closer you get to your destination, the more vigilant you should be in staying alert. The closer you are to the airport the more traffic there is and the more vital it is for you to act on ATC's instructions with as little hesitation as possible.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CVG CTLR EXPERIENCED LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN ARR AND DEP ACFT WHEN INTRAFAC COORD WAS INCOMPLETE AND UNCLR AS TO WHICH CTLR WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT TYPE OF SPACING CTL.
Narrative: CINCINNATI WAS IFR WITH FREEZING CONDITIONS. RWYS WERE BEING DEICED AND PIREPS FOR BRAKING ACTIONS WERE BEING SOLICITED. FREIGHT B727 INBOUND FROM FLM VOR REQUESTED RWY 27, THOUGH WE WERE LNDG RWYS 18L/R. ARR CTLR WAS VECTORING B727 FOR A DOWNWIND TO RWY 27 AND HAD COORDINATED THIS WITH ME (DEP CTLR). A DEP CAME OFF RWY 18L. JS32 WAS TOLD TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 8000 FT 'TWICE' AND TURNED TO A HDG OF 090 DEGS (AGAIN HAD TO BE TOLD TWICE). WITH OTHER SMALLER ACFT IN MY AIRSPACE AT 5000 FT, 6000 FT, AND 7000 FT, I WAS CLBING THE JS32 TO TOP THIS TFC. THE ARR CTLR, HAVING COORD WITH ONE PRECEDED, TO DSND THE B727 TO 7000 FT. WHEN I SAW THE B727 DSNDING, I IMMEDIATELY TOLD THE JS32 TO TURN R HDG 180 DEGS, POINTED OUT TFC AND WHEN HE RESPONDED THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE THE TFC IN SIGHT, I TOLD HIM TO TURN IMMEDIATELY HDG 180 DEGS. HE FINALLY TURNED WHEN HE GOT AN RA ALERT. WHILE THE PROBS THAT OCCURRED WERE MY ASSUMPTION THAT THE ARR CTLR WAS GOING TO STAY AT 9000 FT (WHICH I DIDN'T ENSURE). I FEEL THIS COULD HAVE HAD A BETTER OUTCOME IF I HADN'T HAD TO REPEAT MYSELF (MY XMISSION) TO THE PLT OF THE JS32. AS A CTLR, IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING WHEN YOU ARE BUSY OR WEATHER IS BAD, TO HAVE TO MAKE ALL YOUR XMISSIONS 2 OR 3 TIMES TO EVERY PLANE. THIS HAPPENS FREQUENTLY AND WHILE I KNOW PLTS HAVE A LOT TO ACCOMPLISH IN THE COCKPIT, IT SEEMS ONLY LOGICAL TO ME THAT THE CLOSER YOU GET TO YOUR DEST, THE MORE VIGILANT YOU SHOULD BE IN STAYING ALERT. THE CLOSER YOU ARE TO THE ARPT THE MORE TFC THERE IS AND THE MORE VITAL IT IS FOR YOU TO ACT ON ATC'S INSTRUCTIONS WITH AS LITTLE HESITATION AS POSSIBLE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.