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Attributes | |
ACN | 607017 |
Time | |
Date | 200210 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Champion Citabria 7ECA |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 26505 flight time type : 26505 |
ASRS Report | 607017 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical excursion : runway inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
In oct/02, student pilot checked with me to see if conditions were ok to him to go on a local flight. I had soloed him on may/fri/02. It was a beautiful day, no wind at that time, and I ok'ed him to go. After he had been up about 1 hour, he landed at airport on runway 31. The wind had started to get gusty at this time from the west. He touched down on the numbers and just about that time a crosswind gust caught him and pushed him off the r-hand side of the runway. He was off the runway on the grass, and he saw a culvert (which is about 100 ft from the runway) coming up. He jammed on the brakes. It was either hit the culvert or jam on the brakes. When he jammed on the brakes, he was going downhill and the tail came up (this is a taildragger) and a little gust of wind must have caught him, because he flipped the plane on its back. I had given him instruction on crosswind lndgs in 15-20 mph wind, so I know he could handle that. Then in the FAA investigation, they asked to see his logbook. They found that I had not noted in the logbook some emergency procedures, although I had given him plenty. They never did talk to me or contact me for my statement. Sometime later, they decided to suspend my CFI certificate. I earned my CFI certificate in 1960 and have taught approximately 200 people to fly with no incidents. I earned my commercial certificate in 1956 and have had no incidents in my 26500+ hours. Over 1/2 of these hours are crop spraying. I do not believe my CFI should be suspended because of an oversight in the logbook. I learned about the NASA report today in a magazine, mar/04 issue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CFI RPT ON HIS CERTIFICATE SUSPENSION ACTION AFTER HIS STUDENT HAD AN ACCIDENT WITH A CH7A.
Narrative: IN OCT/02, STUDENT PLT CHKED WITH ME TO SEE IF CONDITIONS WERE OK TO HIM TO GO ON A LCL FLT. I HAD SOLOED HIM ON MAY/FRI/02. IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY, NO WIND AT THAT TIME, AND I OK'ED HIM TO GO. AFTER HE HAD BEEN UP ABOUT 1 HR, HE LANDED AT ARPT ON RWY 31. THE WIND HAD STARTED TO GET GUSTY AT THIS TIME FROM THE W. HE TOUCHED DOWN ON THE NUMBERS AND JUST ABOUT THAT TIME A XWIND GUST CAUGHT HIM AND PUSHED HIM OFF THE R-HAND SIDE OF THE RWY. HE WAS OFF THE RWY ON THE GRASS, AND HE SAW A CULVERT (WHICH IS ABOUT 100 FT FROM THE RWY) COMING UP. HE JAMMED ON THE BRAKES. IT WAS EITHER HIT THE CULVERT OR JAM ON THE BRAKES. WHEN HE JAMMED ON THE BRAKES, HE WAS GOING DOWNHILL AND THE TAIL CAME UP (THIS IS A TAILDRAGGER) AND A LITTLE GUST OF WIND MUST HAVE CAUGHT HIM, BECAUSE HE FLIPPED THE PLANE ON ITS BACK. I HAD GIVEN HIM INSTRUCTION ON XWIND LNDGS IN 15-20 MPH WIND, SO I KNOW HE COULD HANDLE THAT. THEN IN THE FAA INVESTIGATION, THEY ASKED TO SEE HIS LOGBOOK. THEY FOUND THAT I HAD NOT NOTED IN THE LOGBOOK SOME EMER PROCS, ALTHOUGH I HAD GIVEN HIM PLENTY. THEY NEVER DID TALK TO ME OR CONTACT ME FOR MY STATEMENT. SOMETIME LATER, THEY DECIDED TO SUSPEND MY CFI CERTIFICATE. I EARNED MY CFI CERTIFICATE IN 1960 AND HAVE TAUGHT APPROX 200 PEOPLE TO FLY WITH NO INCIDENTS. I EARNED MY COMMERCIAL CERTIFICATE IN 1956 AND HAVE HAD NO INCIDENTS IN MY 26500+ HRS. OVER 1/2 OF THESE HRS ARE CROP SPRAYING. I DO NOT BELIEVE MY CFI SHOULD BE SUSPENDED BECAUSE OF AN OVERSIGHT IN THE LOGBOOK. I LEARNED ABOUT THE NASA RPT TODAY IN A MAGAZINE, MAR/04 ISSUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.