MD80 crew had an engine hot start, after the crew did not clear the engine of fuel, from a no start.

Attributes
ACN	607293
Time
Date	200402
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : san.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	ground : taxi ground : pushback
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	607293
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
ASRS Report	607291
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies
Independent Detector	aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eng egt other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Consequence	other other other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Hot start. Starting right engine. Did not get light off. Suspected ignition system 'B' was not working. Aborted start. Switched to system 'a' prior to turning right engine fuel lever off. We got light off, went to 545 degrees C. Aborted start. After engine spooled down, motored engine for approximately 20 seconds until engine was cooled to 100 degrees. Returned to gate for maintenance inspection. Air carrier Y ignition system are very frustrating. Supplemental information from acn 607291: during taxi out at san, we experienced a hot start on the right engine of an air carrier Y airplane. We did not get a light off on the right engine, and so we switched the ignition source to 'a' from 'B' without taking the fuel lever to 'off.' (at this point we were 10-15 seconds into the ignition start cycle.) upon light off with 'a' ignition selected, the temperature rapidly rose to 545 degrees. We aborted the start and motored the engine to get the egt to a cooler reading. We returned to the gate to have the required maintenance inspection completed as per the procedures in the book/QRH.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MD80 CREW HAD AN ENG HOT START, AFTER THE CREW DID NOT CLR THE ENG OF FUEL, FROM A NO START.

Narrative: HOT START. STARTING R ENG. DID NOT GET LIGHT OFF. SUSPECTED IGNITION SYS 'B' WAS NOT WORKING. ABORTED START. SWITCHED TO SYS 'A' PRIOR TO TURNING R ENG FUEL LEVER OFF. WE GOT LIGHT OFF, WENT TO 545 DEGS C. ABORTED START. AFTER ENG SPOOLED DOWN, MOTORED ENG FOR APPROX 20 SECONDS UNTIL ENG WAS COOLED TO 100 DEGS. RETURNED TO GATE FOR MAINT INSPECTION. ACR Y IGNITION SYS ARE VERY FRUSTRATING. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 607291: DURING TAXI OUT AT SAN, WE EXPERIENCED A HOT START ON THE R ENG OF AN ACR Y AIRPLANE. WE DID NOT GET A LIGHT OFF ON THE R ENG, AND SO WE SWITCHED THE IGNITION SOURCE TO 'A' FROM 'B' WITHOUT TAKING THE FUEL LEVER TO 'OFF.' (AT THIS POINT WE WERE 10-15 SECONDS INTO THE IGNITION START CYCLE.) UPON LIGHT OFF WITH 'A' IGNITION SELECTED, THE TEMP RAPIDLY ROSE TO 545 DEGS. WE ABORTED THE START AND MOTORED THE ENG TO GET THE EGT TO A COOLER READING. WE RETURNED TO THE GATE TO HAVE THE REQUIRED MAINT INSPECTION COMPLETED AS PER THE PROCS IN THE BOOK/QRH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.