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Attributes | |
ACN | 607970 |
Time | |
Date | 200402 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oak.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 607970 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 2921 flight time type : 108 |
ASRS Report | 608078 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : taxiway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The copilot had requested clearance from oak-mry on handheld radio, while I was starting the engines. After start-up, I requested taxi clearance on #1 radio. Ground controller gave us the full route clearance to mry with '...runway 9' at the end. I thought that to mean it was ok to taxi. I began to taxi from ramp via taxiway C. Prior to crossing the north/south crossing runway, I asked ground if we were cleared to cross and taxi to runway 9. He got upset that we had taxied without clearance. We held position, then gained permission to taxi. 2 problems: flight crew in hurry to get moving and 1 controller handling all frequencys from clearance delivery, ground north and south, tower north and south, and unclr phraseology. Supplemental information from acn 608078: on the ground at the oakland airport, normally the captain wants me to pick up the IFR clearance on clearance delivery while he picks up the clearance for taxi on the ground frequency (because of the long taxi). The captain called up ground and requested a taxi clearance, but the controller who was doing all frequencys at the same time, that is -- ground, clearance, and tower -- and started reading of the IFR clearance. I wrote down the clearance and read back the clearance. The key point here is that the controller, in my understanding, said 'expect runway 9R.' mistakes and improvements: copilot: keep head outside the cockpit and do not look too long inside. Captain: misunderstood the clrncs, verify, and do not be too rushed. Controller: everything he did was probably by the rules and he did not make a mistake but using the designated frequency for the appropriate clearance might help to reduce the confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C550 DEP FROM OAK BEGINS TAXI BEFORE CLRED BY ATC.
Narrative: THE COPLT HAD REQUESTED CLRNC FROM OAK-MRY ON HANDHELD RADIO, WHILE I WAS STARTING THE ENGS. AFTER START-UP, I REQUESTED TAXI CLRNC ON #1 RADIO. GND CTLR GAVE US THE FULL RTE CLRNC TO MRY WITH '...RWY 9' AT THE END. I THOUGHT THAT TO MEAN IT WAS OK TO TAXI. I BEGAN TO TAXI FROM RAMP VIA TXWY C. PRIOR TO XING THE N/S XING RWY, I ASKED GND IF WE WERE CLRED TO CROSS AND TAXI TO RWY 9. HE GOT UPSET THAT WE HAD TAXIED WITHOUT CLRNC. WE HELD POS, THEN GAINED PERMISSION TO TAXI. 2 PROBS: FLT CREW IN HURRY TO GET MOVING AND 1 CTLR HANDLING ALL FREQS FROM CLRNC DELIVERY, GND N AND S, TWR N AND S, AND UNCLR PHRASEOLOGY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 608078: ON THE GND AT THE OAKLAND ARPT, NORMALLY THE CAPT WANTS ME TO PICK UP THE IFR CLRNC ON CLRNC DELIVERY WHILE HE PICKS UP THE CLRNC FOR TAXI ON THE GND FREQ (BECAUSE OF THE LONG TAXI). THE CAPT CALLED UP GND AND REQUESTED A TAXI CLRNC, BUT THE CTLR WHO WAS DOING ALL FREQS AT THE SAME TIME, THAT IS -- GND, CLRNC, AND TWR -- AND STARTED READING OF THE IFR CLRNC. I WROTE DOWN THE CLRNC AND READ BACK THE CLRNC. THE KEY POINT HERE IS THAT THE CTLR, IN MY UNDERSTANDING, SAID 'EXPECT RWY 9R.' MISTAKES AND IMPROVEMENTS: COPLT: KEEP HEAD OUTSIDE THE COCKPIT AND DO NOT LOOK TOO LONG INSIDE. CAPT: MISUNDERSTOOD THE CLRNCS, VERIFY, AND DO NOT BE TOO RUSHED. CTLR: EVERYTHING HE DID WAS PROBABLY BY THE RULES AND HE DID NOT MAKE A MISTAKE BUT USING THE DESIGNATED FREQ FOR THE APPROPRIATE CLRNC MIGHT HELP TO REDUCE THE CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.