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Attributes | |
ACN | 609458 |
Time | |
Date | 200402 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc tracon : d01.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 609458 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 2800 |
ASRS Report | 609460 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were inbound at 13000 ft at 280 KTS. No mention to maintain speed was given by controller. At 15 NM from den, approach control cleared us to 11000 ft. I started to slow to 250 KTS and descend. Controller asked our speed and my first officer replied we were slowing to 250 KTS. Controller became upset that he had not cleared us to slow below 280 KTS. I was slowing per normal profile absent ATC instructions to maintain current speed. Last speed given was to cross quail at 280 KTS by center.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 LNDG DEN IS CHALLENGED BY ATC FOR SLOWING AT 13000 FT.
Narrative: WE WERE INBOUND AT 13000 FT AT 280 KTS. NO MENTION TO MAINTAIN SPD WAS GIVEN BY CTLR. AT 15 NM FROM DEN, APCH CTL CLRED US TO 11000 FT. I STARTED TO SLOW TO 250 KTS AND DSND. CTLR ASKED OUR SPD AND MY FO REPLIED WE WERE SLOWING TO 250 KTS. CTLR BECAME UPSET THAT HE HAD NOT CLRED US TO SLOW BELOW 280 KTS. I WAS SLOWING PER NORMAL PROFILE ABSENT ATC INSTRUCTIONS TO MAINTAIN CURRENT SPD. LAST SPD GIVEN WAS TO CROSS QUAIL AT 280 KTS BY CTR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.