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An SF34 flight crew are cleared to cross runway 18L at dfw, but notice an aircraft on takeoff roll. The flight crew stopped the aircraft just past the hold line.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 609831 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200402 |
| Day | Sun |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | SF 340B |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Embraer Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 609831 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 609832 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 18R, first controller instructed XXXX to taxi on taxiway east to hold short of runway 18L at taxiway Y. Approaching taxiway Z, first controller instructed XXXX to cross runway 18L at taxiway Y. As XXXX went through taxiway Y hold short lines, I noted that an air carrier Y erj was in position and hold on runway 18L when a second controller cleared air carrier Y to takeoff on runway 18L. I stopped immediately still short of the runway but through the hold short lines. Air carrier Y continued their takeoff and we were then cleared to cross by second controller. We explained that the previous controller had cleared us to cross. The second controller then indicated that we were correct. Flight XXXX then proceeded to the gate without further incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF34 FLT CREW ARE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 18L AT DFW, BUT NOTICE AN ACFT ON TKOF ROLL. THE FLT CREW STOPPED THE ACFT JUST PAST THE HOLD LINE.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 18R, FIRST CTLR INSTRUCTED XXXX TO TAXI ON TXWY E TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 18L AT TXWY Y. APCHING TXWY Z, FIRST CTLR INSTRUCTED XXXX TO CROSS RWY 18L AT TXWY Y. AS XXXX WENT THROUGH TXWY Y HOLD SHORT LINES, I NOTED THAT AN ACR Y ERJ WAS IN POS AND HOLD ON RWY 18L WHEN A SECOND CTLR CLRED ACR Y TO TKOF ON RWY 18L. I STOPPED IMMEDIATELY STILL SHORT OF THE RWY BUT THROUGH THE HOLD SHORT LINES. ACR Y CONTINUED THEIR TKOF AND WE WERE THEN CLRED TO CROSS BY SECOND CTLR. WE EXPLAINED THAT THE PREVIOUS CTLR HAD CLRED US TO CROSS. THE SECOND CTLR THEN INDICATED THAT WE WERE CORRECT. FLT XXXX THEN PROCEEDED TO THE GATE WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.