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Attributes | |
ACN | 613140 |
Time | |
Date | 200403 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mygf.airport |
State Reference | FO |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma.artcc tower : mygf.tower |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | PC-12 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute airway : br66v.airway |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3535 |
ASRS Report | 613140 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Resolutory Action | controller : provided flight assist controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
United states controllers told us to contact freeport approach about 30 mi from airport. Freeport approach, at about 14 mi out, told us to go direct to locator OM and expect the ILS runway 6. Approach control never turned us over to tower. At 6 mi from airport on final approach, we asked controller if we should switch to tower. No response. Immediately switched to tower (4.5 mi out) and explained situation. Tower called traffic 1 mi, 12 O'clock position. We observed no traffic visually or on TCASII. Continued to tell tower DME from airport. At .5 mi from runway, cleared to land. Tower still seemed confused as to our position. Landed and cleared customs. Outbound: picked up clearance. Cleared BR68V. Could not find it on latin american 5/6 hi/lo chart. Queried ground about BR68V. Told it was same as BR66V inbound, but was 68V outbound. We put BR66V into GPS. Bahamas controller asked if we were established on airway. We confirmed we were. They then turned us over to united states controller who asked if we were going to muneo intersection on BR68V. We asked for spelling of intersection. They gave it to us and both controllers and we realized there was some confusion as to routing. (Controller pushed us to squawk identify.) controller vectored us back on to BR68V, which we found on the southeast 5/6 lo chart. Must be very careful talking to bahamian controllers and verify carefully what told. Also, they apparently do not have radar as they constantly queried us as to DME.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PC12 FLT CREW EXPERIENCED COM AND CLRNC DIFFICULTIES WITH ATC INTO AND OUT OF MYGF.
Narrative: UNITED STATES CTLRS TOLD US TO CONTACT FREEPORT APCH ABOUT 30 MI FROM ARPT. FREEPORT APCH, AT ABOUT 14 MI OUT, TOLD US TO GO DIRECT TO LOCATOR OM AND EXPECT THE ILS RWY 6. APCH CTL NEVER TURNED US OVER TO TWR. AT 6 MI FROM ARPT ON FINAL APCH, WE ASKED CTLR IF WE SHOULD SWITCH TO TWR. NO RESPONSE. IMMEDIATELY SWITCHED TO TWR (4.5 MI OUT) AND EXPLAINED SIT. TWR CALLED TFC 1 MI, 12 O'CLOCK POS. WE OBSERVED NO TFC VISUALLY OR ON TCASII. CONTINUED TO TELL TWR DME FROM ARPT. AT .5 MI FROM RWY, CLRED TO LAND. TWR STILL SEEMED CONFUSED AS TO OUR POS. LANDED AND CLRED CUSTOMS. OUTBOUND: PICKED UP CLRNC. CLRED BR68V. COULD NOT FIND IT ON LATIN AMERICAN 5/6 HI/LO CHART. QUERIED GND ABOUT BR68V. TOLD IT WAS SAME AS BR66V INBOUND, BUT WAS 68V OUTBOUND. WE PUT BR66V INTO GPS. BAHAMAS CTLR ASKED IF WE WERE ESTABLISHED ON AIRWAY. WE CONFIRMED WE WERE. THEY THEN TURNED US OVER TO UNITED STATES CTLR WHO ASKED IF WE WERE GOING TO MUNEO INTXN ON BR68V. WE ASKED FOR SPELLING OF INTXN. THEY GAVE IT TO US AND BOTH CTLRS AND WE REALIZED THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AS TO ROUTING. (CTLR PUSHED US TO SQUAWK IDENT.) CTLR VECTORED US BACK ON TO BR68V, WHICH WE FOUND ON THE SE 5/6 LO CHART. MUST BE VERY CAREFUL TALKING TO BAHAMIAN CTLRS AND VERIFY CAREFULLY WHAT TOLD. ALSO, THEY APPARENTLY DO NOT HAVE RADAR AS THEY CONSTANTLY QUERIED US AS TO DME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.