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Attributes | |
ACN | 614115 |
Time | |
Date | 200404 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mht.airport |
State Reference | NH |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 614115 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 614116 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport FAA |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | markings : mht.airport signage : mht.airport |
Narrative:
Prior to taxi out, I reviewed the 10-7 notes and the 10-9 plate, reviewing the anticipated taxi instructions to runway 17. After receiving taxi instructions (taxiway D to taxiway H to runway 17), I reviewed the taxi instructions and plate again and taxied to runway 17. After crossing runway 24 northbound on taxiway H, I turned off my exterior lights (which I always illuminate when crossing an active runway). As I looked back ahead, I saw the hold bars come into the illumination of the taxi light, and began braking smoothly (taxi speed was 12 KT). I was surprised by the sight of the hold bars so far back from the runway (approximately 50 yards). At first I thought it must be an ILS hold short line (being so far away from the runway), but then confirmed it was 2 solid lines and the 2 dashed lines. I looked to my left for a red sign and still half expected to see 'ILS,' but instead say '17.' I brought the aircraft to a smooth stop, with the nose slightly across the runway hold short line. The nose was still approximately 40-50 yards from the runway. Conditions were night, VMC. As I cleared visually the approach paths to both runway 24 and runway 6, I did not notice the low red '17' sign. The 10-9 plate does not depict the unusual location of this hold short line so abnormally far from the runway edge, nor does the 10-7 issue any caution. Consideration should be given to adding a caution note to our 10-7 page. Supplemental information from acn 614116: prior to pushback, the captain and I reviewed the 10-9 page for probable taxi out to runway 17. I paid close attention to the route on the 10-9 page since this was my first time at mht. After receiving taxi clearance, we once again reviewed our clearance to taxi to runway 17, crossing runway 17 at taxiway D, continue on taxiway H to runway 17. After crossing runway 6, I was inside switching the radio frequency to tower frequency. After looking outside and seeing we were still a fair distance away from the approach end of runway 17, I adjusted the air conditioning. While looking at the aircraft panel, the captain began to stop the aircraft and commented about the hold short line. We looked at the sign to see if it said 'ILS' but it, in fact, was the hold short for runway 17. The aircraft nose was slightly across the hold short, but still a good 50 yards (estimated) from the runway threshold. My attention is normally outside when approaching the runway, but I never would have expected a hold short that far from the runway. A note on the 10-7 page regarding the position of this hold short would be helpful. I will be much more diligent in my 'outside' scan, especially at unfamiliar fields.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-700 CREW HAD A RWY INCURSION, AT NIGHT, AFTER THE CAPT TURNED THE LNDG LIGHTS OFF, AFTER XING A RWY. THE CAPT DID NOT DETECT THE HOLD SHORT LINE IN TIME TO STOP, USING THE TAXI LIGHT.
Narrative: PRIOR TO TAXI OUT, I REVIEWED THE 10-7 NOTES AND THE 10-9 PLATE, REVIEWING THE ANTICIPATED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO RWY 17. AFTER RECEIVING TAXI INSTRUCTIONS (TXWY D TO TXWY H TO RWY 17), I REVIEWED THE TAXI INSTRUCTIONS AND PLATE AGAIN AND TAXIED TO RWY 17. AFTER XING RWY 24 NBOUND ON TXWY H, I TURNED OFF MY EXTERIOR LIGHTS (WHICH I ALWAYS ILLUMINATE WHEN XING AN ACTIVE RWY). AS I LOOKED BACK AHEAD, I SAW THE HOLD BARS COME INTO THE ILLUMINATION OF THE TAXI LIGHT, AND BEGAN BRAKING SMOOTHLY (TAXI SPD WAS 12 KT). I WAS SURPRISED BY THE SIGHT OF THE HOLD BARS SO FAR BACK FROM THE RWY (APPROX 50 YARDS). AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT MUST BE AN ILS HOLD SHORT LINE (BEING SO FAR AWAY FROM THE RWY), BUT THEN CONFIRMED IT WAS 2 SOLID LINES AND THE 2 DASHED LINES. I LOOKED TO MY L FOR A RED SIGN AND STILL HALF EXPECTED TO SEE 'ILS,' BUT INSTEAD SAY '17.' I BROUGHT THE ACFT TO A SMOOTH STOP, WITH THE NOSE SLIGHTLY ACROSS THE RWY HOLD SHORT LINE. THE NOSE WAS STILL APPROX 40-50 YARDS FROM THE RWY. CONDITIONS WERE NIGHT, VMC. AS I CLRED VISUALLY THE APCH PATHS TO BOTH RWY 24 AND RWY 6, I DID NOT NOTICE THE LOW RED '17' SIGN. THE 10-9 PLATE DOES NOT DEPICT THE UNUSUAL LOCATION OF THIS HOLD SHORT LINE SO ABNORMALLY FAR FROM THE RWY EDGE, NOR DOES THE 10-7 ISSUE ANY CAUTION. CONSIDERATION SHOULD BE GIVEN TO ADDING A CAUTION NOTE TO OUR 10-7 PAGE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 614116: PRIOR TO PUSHBACK, THE CAPT AND I REVIEWED THE 10-9 PAGE FOR PROBABLE TAXI OUT TO RWY 17. I PAID CLOSE ATTN TO THE RTE ON THE 10-9 PAGE SINCE THIS WAS MY FIRST TIME AT MHT. AFTER RECEIVING TAXI CLRNC, WE ONCE AGAIN REVIEWED OUR CLRNC TO TAXI TO RWY 17, XING RWY 17 AT TXWY D, CONTINUE ON TXWY H TO RWY 17. AFTER XING RWY 6, I WAS INSIDE SWITCHING THE RADIO FREQ TO TWR FREQ. AFTER LOOKING OUTSIDE AND SEEING WE WERE STILL A FAIR DISTANCE AWAY FROM THE APCH END OF RWY 17, I ADJUSTED THE AIR CONDITIONING. WHILE LOOKING AT THE ACFT PANEL, THE CAPT BEGAN TO STOP THE ACFT AND COMMENTED ABOUT THE HOLD SHORT LINE. WE LOOKED AT THE SIGN TO SEE IF IT SAID 'ILS' BUT IT, IN FACT, WAS THE HOLD SHORT FOR RWY 17. THE ACFT NOSE WAS SLIGHTLY ACROSS THE HOLD SHORT, BUT STILL A GOOD 50 YARDS (ESTIMATED) FROM THE RWY THRESHOLD. MY ATTN IS NORMALLY OUTSIDE WHEN APCHING THE RWY, BUT I NEVER WOULD HAVE EXPECTED A HOLD SHORT THAT FAR FROM THE RWY. A NOTE ON THE 10-7 PAGE REGARDING THE POS OF THIS HOLD SHORT WOULD BE HELPFUL. I WILL BE MUCH MORE DILIGENT IN MY 'OUTSIDE' SCAN, ESPECIALLY AT UNFAMILIAR FIELDS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.