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Attributes | |
ACN | 614378 |
Time | |
Date | 200404 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sbj.vor |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Windshear |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc tracon : n90.tracon tower : den.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Learjet 25 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Route In Use | arrival star : jakie: rnav |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 614378 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : far non adherence : company policies non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Company Chart Or Publication |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
It is early am and we are to go to teb. The 1ST leg is my leg, I am the first officer. PIC X is the captain. As we are on the takeoff roll, he decided to call dispatch. I had to complete the takeoff and the after takeoff (gear up, yaw damper, igniters, lights, flaps, power reduction, and level off at 1500 ft) and he is on the phone. We climb, no problem, level off at FL410. They gave us the jaike arrival fak transition. The captain is no help to me. I had to program all the waypoints in the GPS. I think he does not know how to use it. As we got into the arrival, the captain is so behind that I believe he got the wrong ATIS and he was talking to our dispatcher. He should be helping me. I got a little bit off the arrival. ATC told me to get back on, but this guy is saying you are going to get us violated. Well, 'do not blame it on me,' I told him. Controllers got hot with us, so I try my best to get back on the arrival, but the waypoints are too close to each other. ATC told us to check our navs and told us to go direct to sbj VOR. So we did. All through this time, captain is no help to me. ATC is mad with us, told us to go direct to vings, I think the captain can not find it because he is lost looking at the wrong airport. ATC asks, 'are you going to vings?' he says, 'yes.' ATC said, 'what is your heading?' he said, '060 degrees.' controller is mad now and says negative. Captain is trying to find vings, but he does not know where to look for it because he is lost, he is looking at the wrong airport. Even so, I put paper clips at the approach plates for teb, departure airport and arrival airport, which is part of my job. They told us fly heading 090 degrees, intercept runway 06 localizer, descend to 2000 ft, so I did. He dials in some frequency so I asked him, 'I am getting a flag on my side. Did you tune in and identification?' once again I do not know where he is at, he is lost. Meanwhile, I am trying my best to stay at 2000 ft and heading 090 degrees. The WX around the area was gusty winds and severe low level windshear at the airport. He never told me that, because he got the wrong ATIS. Not only did he get the wrong ATIS, but also the wrong ILS frequency. I looked over at approach plate and told the captain, 'well son, you are at the wrong airport.' he goes to the pages and finds the correct frequency and we land without any further problems. On our way back is his leg, he took off, no problem, climb no problem, but on our descent, they gave him a crossing restr. I told him twice cross 110 degrees northeast at 22000 ft. ATC asks him if he was going to meet the restr. I answer yes. He said, 'too bad,' and of course he did not meet the restr. This report is to show that flight time and type ratings do not make a good pilot. I have made mistakes, but this one is all because we are a team and PIC X is no help to me, nor to anybody he flies with.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HDG TRACK DEVIATION INSTIGATED BY A NEGLIGENT CAPT WHO SETS A POOR EXAMPLE OF NON SUPPORT FOR THE PF FO ON A LR25 INTO TEB, NJ.
Narrative: IT IS EARLY AM AND WE ARE TO GO TO TEB. THE 1ST LEG IS MY LEG, I AM THE FO. PIC X IS THE CAPT. AS WE ARE ON THE TKOF ROLL, HE DECIDED TO CALL DISPATCH. I HAD TO COMPLETE THE TKOF AND THE AFTER TKOF (GEAR UP, YAW DAMPER, IGNITERS, LIGHTS, FLAPS, PWR REDUCTION, AND LEVEL OFF AT 1500 FT) AND HE IS ON THE PHONE. WE CLB, NO PROB, LEVEL OFF AT FL410. THEY GAVE US THE JAIKE ARR FAK TRANSITION. THE CAPT IS NO HELP TO ME. I HAD TO PROGRAM ALL THE WAYPOINTS IN THE GPS. I THINK HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO USE IT. AS WE GOT INTO THE ARR, THE CAPT IS SO BEHIND THAT I BELIEVE HE GOT THE WRONG ATIS AND HE WAS TALKING TO OUR DISPATCHER. HE SHOULD BE HELPING ME. I GOT A LITTLE BIT OFF THE ARR. ATC TOLD ME TO GET BACK ON, BUT THIS GUY IS SAYING YOU ARE GOING TO GET US VIOLATED. WELL, 'DO NOT BLAME IT ON ME,' I TOLD HIM. CONTROLLERS GOT HOT WITH US, SO I TRY MY BEST TO GET BACK ON THE ARR, BUT THE WAYPOINTS ARE TOO CLOSE TO EACH OTHER. ATC TOLD US TO CHK OUR NAVS AND TOLD US TO GO DIRECT TO SBJ VOR. SO WE DID. ALL THROUGH THIS TIME, CAPT IS NO HELP TO ME. ATC IS MAD WITH US, TOLD US TO GO DIRECT TO VINGS, I THINK THE CAPT CAN NOT FIND IT BECAUSE HE IS LOST LOOKING AT THE WRONG ARPT. ATC ASKS, 'ARE YOU GOING TO VINGS?' HE SAYS, 'YES.' ATC SAID, 'WHAT IS YOUR HDG?' HE SAID, '060 DEGS.' CTLR IS MAD NOW AND SAYS NEGATIVE. CAPT IS TRYING TO FIND VINGS, BUT HE DOES NOT KNOW WHERE TO LOOK FOR IT BECAUSE HE IS LOST, HE IS LOOKING AT THE WRONG ARPT. EVEN SO, I PUT PAPER CLIPS AT THE APCH PLATES FOR TEB, DEP ARPT AND ARR ARPT, WHICH IS PART OF MY JOB. THEY TOLD US FLY HDG 090 DEGS, INTERCEPT RWY 06 LOCALIZER, DESCEND TO 2000 FT, SO I DID. HE DIALS IN SOME FREQUENCY SO I ASKED HIM, 'I AM GETTING A FLAG ON MY SIDE. DID YOU TUNE IN AND ID?' ONCE AGAIN I DO NOT KNOW WHERE HE IS AT, HE IS LOST. MEANWHILE, I AM TRYING MY BEST TO STAY AT 2000 FT AND HDG 090 DEGS. THE WX AROUND THE AREA WAS GUSTY WINDS AND SEVERE LOW LEVEL WINDSHEAR AT THE ARPT. HE NEVER TOLD ME THAT, BECAUSE HE GOT THE WRONG ATIS. NOT ONLY DID HE GET THE WRONG ATIS, BUT ALSO THE WRONG ILS FREQUENCY. I LOOKED OVER AT APCH PLATE AND TOLD THE CAPT, 'WELL SON, YOU ARE AT THE WRONG ARPT.' HE GOES TO THE PAGES AND FINDS THE CORRECT FREQUENCY AND WE LAND WITHOUT ANY FURTHER PROBS. ON OUR WAY BACK IS HIS LEG, HE TOOK OFF, NO PROB, CLIMB NO PROB, BUT ON OUR DESCENT, THEY GAVE HIM A CROSSING RESTR. I TOLD HIM TWICE CROSS 110 DEGS NE AT 22000 FT. ATC ASKS HIM IF HE WAS GOING TO MEET THE RESTR. I ANSWER YES. HE SAID, 'TOO BAD,' AND OF COURSE HE DID NOT MEET THE RESTR. THIS RPT IS TO SHOW THAT FLT TIME AND TYPE RATINGS DO NOT MAKE A GOOD PLT. I HAVE MADE MISTAKES, BUT THIS ONE IS ALL BECAUSE WE ARE A TEAM AND PIC X IS NO HELP TO ME, NOR TO ANYBODY HE FLIES WITH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.