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Attributes | |
ACN | 614587 |
Time | |
Date | 200404 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : slc.airport |
State Reference | UT |
Altitude | agl single value : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : slc.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 614587 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We accepted a visual approach to slc runway 34L in VFR conditions from slc approach control. The turn on was 'high and tight.' we elected to execute a missed approach at approximately 1100 ft AGL and requested a 'left closed VFR pattern' from tower. Tower immediately granted the request. At approximately 2 mi south on downwind at 1500 ft AGL, the tower directed we turn inbound. We declined as it would have resulted in non-stable approach at 1000 ft AGL. We continued to approximately 3 1/2 to 4 mi, turned inbound and landed uneventfully. In a subsequent cordial discussion with the tower supervisor, it turns out there are VFR corridors 3 mi north and south of the airport at 6000 ft MSL (approximately 1500 ft above field elevation) and we had encroached in the southern corridor. I explained to him that we did not have any way of knowing those corridors exist as they are not shown on the airport page as they are at other airports such as lax. Also, we discussed the requirement to be stable at 1000 ft AGL on final.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A FLT CREW ENCROACHED ON A VFR CORRIDOR AT SLC ARPT DUE TO NEEDING TO EXTEND DOWNWIND TO STABILIZE THE ACFT.
Narrative: WE ACCEPTED A VISUAL APCH TO SLC RWY 34L IN VFR CONDITIONS FROM SLC APCH CTL. THE TURN ON WAS 'HIGH AND TIGHT.' WE ELECTED TO EXECUTE A MISSED APCH AT APPROX 1100 FT AGL AND REQUESTED A 'L CLOSED VFR PATTERN' FROM TWR. TWR IMMEDIATELY GRANTED THE REQUEST. AT APPROX 2 MI S ON DOWNWIND AT 1500 FT AGL, THE TWR DIRECTED WE TURN INBOUND. WE DECLINED AS IT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN NON-STABLE APCH AT 1000 FT AGL. WE CONTINUED TO APPROX 3 1/2 TO 4 MI, TURNED INBOUND AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. IN A SUBSEQUENT CORDIAL DISCUSSION WITH THE TWR SUPVR, IT TURNS OUT THERE ARE VFR CORRIDORS 3 MI N AND S OF THE ARPT AT 6000 FT MSL (APPROX 1500 FT ABOVE FIELD ELEVATION) AND WE HAD ENCROACHED IN THE SOUTHERN CORRIDOR. I EXPLAINED TO HIM THAT WE DID NOT HAVE ANY WAY OF KNOWING THOSE CORRIDORS EXIST AS THEY ARE NOT SHOWN ON THE ARPT PAGE AS THEY ARE AT OTHER ARPTS SUCH AS LAX. ALSO, WE DISCUSSED THE REQUIREMENT TO BE STABLE AT 1000 FT AGL ON FINAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.