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A D328 crew off ipt, flying the published obstacle departure procedure, was advised by a ZNY controller that they had been cleared direct their first fix after takeoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 616185 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ipt.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Rain Ice Fog Turbulence |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc tower : ipt.tower tower : phl.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Do 328 TP (Turboprop) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 2700 |
| ASRS Report | 616185 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Ipt, after being cleared for takeoff, we commenced a 300 degree heading after 1000 ft for obstacle departure procedure. Ipt tower handed us off to departure. We checked in and leveled off at our initial altitude, heading 300 degrees. After a few mins, I asked for direct etx (our next fix). Departure came back and advised that we were given direct etx after takeoff from tower. The first officer and I agreed that we were not given that instruction and asked if we could go direct etx. Departure agreed, we turned direct to etx, and were on our way. Looking back, if we would have turned direct etx after takeoff, there could have been a chance that we would not have cleared the 2200 ft mountain just south of the field. I am glad we followed the published departure obstacle procedure. The flight continued without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A D328 CREW OFF IPT, FLYING THE PUBLISHED OBSTACLE DEP PROC, WAS ADVISED BY A ZNY CTLR THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLRED DIRECT THEIR FIRST FIX AFTER TKOF.
Narrative: IPT, AFTER BEING CLRED FOR TKOF, WE COMMENCED A 300 DEG HDG AFTER 1000 FT FOR OBSTACLE DEP PROC. IPT TWR HANDED US OFF TO DEP. WE CHKED IN AND LEVELED OFF AT OUR INITIAL ALT, HDG 300 DEGS. AFTER A FEW MINS, I ASKED FOR DIRECT ETX (OUR NEXT FIX). DEP CAME BACK AND ADVISED THAT WE WERE GIVEN DIRECT ETX AFTER TKOF FROM TWR. THE FO AND I AGREED THAT WE WERE NOT GIVEN THAT INSTRUCTION AND ASKED IF WE COULD GO DIRECT ETX. DEP AGREED, WE TURNED DIRECT TO ETX, AND WERE ON OUR WAY. LOOKING BACK, IF WE WOULD HAVE TURNED DIRECT ETX AFTER TKOF, THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A CHANCE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE CLRED THE 2200 FT MOUNTAIN JUST S OF THE FIELD. I AM GLAD WE FOLLOWED THE PUBLISHED DEP OBSTACLE PROC. THE FLT CONTINUED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.