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Attributes | |
ACN | 616769 |
Time | |
Date | 200405 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ril.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Beechcraft Twin Turboprop Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3100 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 616769 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Giving instruction 5 mi southeast of ril at 9000 ft, king air called in from southeast and I made a blind report (position and altitude, conducting air work). Later, king air pilot advised that we missed by 200 ft. I never saw the aircraft. We were on 122.8. My question is: how a pilot with TCASII aboard would let a situation deteriorate to 200 ft?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 INSTRUCTOR PLT AND STUDENT HAD AN NMAC WITH A KING AIR AT 9000 FT, 5 MI SE OF RIL.
Narrative: GIVING INSTRUCTION 5 MI SE OF RIL AT 9000 FT, KING AIR CALLED IN FROM SE AND I MADE A BLIND RPT (POS AND ALT, CONDUCTING AIR WORK). LATER, KING AIR PLT ADVISED THAT WE MISSED BY 200 FT. I NEVER SAW THE ACFT. WE WERE ON 122.8. MY QUESTION IS: HOW A PLT WITH TCASII ABOARD WOULD LET A SIT DETERIORATE TO 200 FT?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.