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Attributes | |
ACN | 617456 |
Time | |
Date | 200405 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfb.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon tower : sfb.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 9l |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mco.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 650 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 617456 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 400 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We (C172) were doing practice instrument approachs around orl airspace and our call sign was 'call sign xyz.' we made an ILS low approach to sfb runway 9L and gone to the missed. Sfb tower assigned turn right, heading of 180 degrees and maintain 2000 ft, then switch to mco departure. The first instruction from mco departure was to climb and maintain 2000 ft with our call sign. A few seconds later, we caught the radio call '(some call sign which actually we could not catch) xyz' followed by 'descend and maintain 3000 ft.' although that instruction was kind of confusing and did not make sense to us, we thought that was the controller's simple mistake, so that we simply replied back as 'climb and maintain 3000 ft' with our full call sign. No response from mco. But a few moments later, we heard the call sign of 'air carrier xyz,' that reminded us of our mistake for that instruction. We were going to ask to confirm when we received the instruction from mco to descend and maintain 2000 ft with traffic information. Unfortunately, we did not receive any warning from either sanford tower, or mco departure control, of the call sign similarity. Nor had we been told that our readback was wrong, although we read back to mco with our full call sign. They did not correct it. We had not known that the other aircraft was using a similar call sign until we heard theirs.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 TRAINING FLT ASSUMES A CLRNC INSTRUCTION IS FOR THEM BECAUSE OF THE SAME LAST 3 CALL SIGN DIGITS, BEING ACTUALLY FOR A DSNDING ACR, RESULTING IN AN NMAC WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR APCH INTO SFB BY MCO APCH.
Narrative: WE (C172) WERE DOING PRACTICE INST APCHS AROUND ORL AIRSPACE AND OUR CALL SIGN WAS 'CALL SIGN XYZ.' WE MADE AN ILS LOW APCH TO SFB RWY 9L AND GONE TO THE MISSED. SFB TWR ASSIGNED TURN R, HDG OF 180 DEGS AND MAINTAIN 2000 FT, THEN SWITCH TO MCO DEP. THE FIRST INSTRUCTION FROM MCO DEP WAS TO CLB AND MAINTAIN 2000 FT WITH OUR CALL SIGN. A FEW SECONDS LATER, WE CAUGHT THE RADIO CALL '(SOME CALL SIGN WHICH ACTUALLY WE COULD NOT CATCH) XYZ' FOLLOWED BY 'DSND AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT.' ALTHOUGH THAT INSTRUCTION WAS KIND OF CONFUSING AND DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO US, WE THOUGHT THAT WAS THE CTLR'S SIMPLE MISTAKE, SO THAT WE SIMPLY REPLIED BACK AS 'CLB AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT' WITH OUR FULL CALL SIGN. NO RESPONSE FROM MCO. BUT A FEW MOMENTS LATER, WE HEARD THE CALL SIGN OF 'ACR XYZ,' THAT REMINDED US OF OUR MISTAKE FOR THAT INSTRUCTION. WE WERE GOING TO ASK TO CONFIRM WHEN WE RECEIVED THE INSTRUCTION FROM MCO TO DSND AND MAINTAIN 2000 FT WITH TFC INFO. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY WARNING FROM EITHER SANFORD TWR, OR MCO DEP CTL, OF THE CALL SIGN SIMILARITY. NOR HAD WE BEEN TOLD THAT OUR READBACK WAS WRONG, ALTHOUGH WE READ BACK TO MCO WITH OUR FULL CALL SIGN. THEY DID NOT CORRECT IT. WE HAD NOT KNOWN THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS USING A SIMILAR CALL SIGN UNTIL WE HEARD THEIRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.