37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
Attributes | |
ACN | 619826 |
Time | |
Date | 200406 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dal.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 2400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Falcon 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3300 |
ASRS Report | 619826 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to descend to 2400 ft and given a heading to intercept the localizer. The captain selected 'approach' on the flight director. I suggested he only use heading and navigation, since we were not cleared for the approach, only to intercept the localizer and, therefore, should not descend below 2400 ft. He followed my suggestion, however, while I was looking outside the aircraft for traffic, he again hit 'approach' and we went right through the 2400 ft. As he was descending I realized what was going to happen and called out 'altitude,' but he continued below 2400 ft and then caught it and returned to the correct altitude. The captain was extremely inexperienced and had not flown a DA50 in over 10 yrs -- only the simulator on a recurrent training session. He had not flown a high performance jet in over 10 yrs either. He was totally unfamiliar with the aircraft's avionics and FMS. For the entire flight, I felt that the captain was way behind the airplane and should not have been dispatched as the PIC. He later admitted that he was very uncomfortable with the airplane and also in the low level flight environment. However, he needed the money and he was technically 'current' having just completed a refresher course which he paid for himself. Perhaps some of the part 91 regulations need to be tightened up or individuals need to be aware of what they are hiring in terms of qualifications. This was a new aircraft owner and a very old falcon 50 -- together with a very unseasoned captain, this was a potentially dangerous situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF FA50 ADVISES CAPT ENGAGED APCH MODE OF AUTOFLT SYS PREMATURELY RESULTING IN ALTDEV WHEN GS WAS CAPTURED PRIOR TO BEING CLRED TO A LOWER ALT.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO DSND TO 2400 FT AND GIVEN A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE LOC. THE CAPT SELECTED 'APCH' ON THE FLT DIRECTOR. I SUGGESTED HE ONLY USE HDG AND NAV, SINCE WE WERE NOT CLRED FOR THE APCH, ONLY TO INTERCEPT THE LOC AND, THEREFORE, SHOULD NOT DSND BELOW 2400 FT. HE FOLLOWED MY SUGGESTION, HOWEVER, WHILE I WAS LOOKING OUTSIDE THE ACFT FOR TFC, HE AGAIN HIT 'APCH' AND WE WENT RIGHT THROUGH THE 2400 FT. AS HE WAS DSNDING I REALIZED WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND CALLED OUT 'ALT,' BUT HE CONTINUED BELOW 2400 FT AND THEN CAUGHT IT AND RETURNED TO THE CORRECT ALT. THE CAPT WAS EXTREMELY INEXPERIENCED AND HAD NOT FLOWN A DA50 IN OVER 10 YRS -- ONLY THE SIMULATOR ON A RECURRENT TRAINING SESSION. HE HAD NOT FLOWN A HIGH PERFORMANCE JET IN OVER 10 YRS EITHER. HE WAS TOTALLY UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ACFT'S AVIONICS AND FMS. FOR THE ENTIRE FLT, I FELT THAT THE CAPT WAS WAY BEHIND THE AIRPLANE AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DISPATCHED AS THE PIC. HE LATER ADMITTED THAT HE WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE AIRPLANE AND ALSO IN THE LOW LEVEL FLT ENVIRONMENT. HOWEVER, HE NEEDED THE MONEY AND HE WAS TECHNICALLY 'CURRENT' HAVING JUST COMPLETED A REFRESHER COURSE WHICH HE PAID FOR HIMSELF. PERHAPS SOME OF THE PART 91 REGS NEED TO BE TIGHTENED UP OR INDIVIDUALS NEED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT THEY ARE HIRING IN TERMS OF QUALIFICATIONS. THIS WAS A NEW ACFT OWNER AND A VERY OLD FALCON 50 -- TOGETHER WITH A VERY UNSEASONED CAPT, THIS WAS A POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.