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Attributes | |
ACN | 621531 |
Time | |
Date | 200406 |
Day | Mon |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : sby.vor |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 25000 msl bound upper : 25250 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 621531 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
At cruise altitude FL250, autoplt on, 30 mi southwest of sby VOR going direct to sby as cleared by ZDC on frequency 125.82. Had traffic alert from TCASII at 2 O'clock position and 1000 ft below and climbing. Frequency was congested and we looked for traffic visually. WX was clear. We then had an RA to climb for that traffic and I disengaged the autoplt and initiated a climb. At the same time we spotted traffic as I was in a climb. At about FL252.5 we had another TCASII RA for traffic above us 12 O'clock position and less than 1000 ft. TCASII said to monitor vertical speed so I began to level off at FL253. We had 2 RA's -- the one below we estimate at 300 ft vertically and less than 1 mi. The other aircraft above we estimate at 700 ft and overhead. At no time did we get any traffic alerts from ATC. We tried to let them know that we were responding to an RA, but another aircraft responded first about their RA response. I queried ATC about the incident once clear of traffic. He stated that the incident would be looked into and apologized that was the extent of the incident. I contacted my chief pilot and advised him of the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: E145 FLT CREW WITH ZDC EXPERIENCED 2 TCASII RA'S AT FL250 WITH NO ATC TFC INFO.
Narrative: AT CRUISE ALT FL250, AUTOPLT ON, 30 MI SW OF SBY VOR GOING DIRECT TO SBY AS CLRED BY ZDC ON FREQ 125.82. HAD TFC ALERT FROM TCASII AT 2 O'CLOCK POS AND 1000 FT BELOW AND CLBING. FREQ WAS CONGESTED AND WE LOOKED FOR TFC VISUALLY. WX WAS CLR. WE THEN HAD AN RA TO CLB FOR THAT TFC AND I DISENGAGED THE AUTOPLT AND INITIATED A CLB. AT THE SAME TIME WE SPOTTED TFC AS I WAS IN A CLB. AT ABOUT FL252.5 WE HAD ANOTHER TCASII RA FOR TFC ABOVE US 12 O'CLOCK POS AND LESS THAN 1000 FT. TCASII SAID TO MONITOR VERT SPD SO I BEGAN TO LEVEL OFF AT FL253. WE HAD 2 RA'S -- THE ONE BELOW WE ESTIMATE AT 300 FT VERTLY AND LESS THAN 1 MI. THE OTHER ACFT ABOVE WE ESTIMATE AT 700 FT AND OVERHEAD. AT NO TIME DID WE GET ANY TFC ALERTS FROM ATC. WE TRIED TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WE WERE RESPONDING TO AN RA, BUT ANOTHER ACFT RESPONDED FIRST ABOUT THEIR RA RESPONSE. I QUERIED ATC ABOUT THE INCIDENT ONCE CLR OF TFC. HE STATED THAT THE INCIDENT WOULD BE LOOKED INTO AND APOLOGIZED THAT WAS THE EXTENT OF THE INCIDENT. I CONTACTED MY CHIEF PLT AND ADVISED HIM OF THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.