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Attributes | |
ACN | 622213 |
Time | |
Date | 200302 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : a90.tracon |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : wylyy |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 21500 flight time type : 12480 |
ASRS Report | 622213 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Publication | PDC |
Narrative:
On departure we were asked if we were assigned the wylyy departure. I as the PNF, responded that we were going to glyde intersection as the ATC clearance section stated that we were to fly bos-glyde baf J77 ptw, etc. The controller (bos departure) said to look in the remarks section. There it said wylyy four departure. I apologized and she said no problem, gave us a heading and that was that. All other pre departure clearance's for that pairing, and all I can ever remember, had/has assigned SID in the ATC clearance section. Why not bos? This is a problem (potentially large problem) that I feel necessitates immediate attention system wide! The pre departure clearance's, at times, are confusing enough without assigned sids and stars being hidden in remarks text. Have the ATC clearance section read as it would be assigned by voice. Why hide the SID and or STAR in the remarks?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 PIC COMPLAINS OF THE PROC USED WHEN THERE IS A RTE FOR CLRNCS ISSUED VIA THE PDC PROC, MISSING THE FACT THAT THE CLRED RTE WAS IN THE ATC REMARKS SECTION RATHER THAN THE ATC CLRNC SECTION OF THE PDC OUT OF BOS, MA.
Narrative: ON DEP WE WERE ASKED IF WE WERE ASSIGNED THE WYLYY DEP. I AS THE PNF, RESPONDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO GLYDE INTXN AS THE ATC CLRNC SECTION STATED THAT WE WERE TO FLY BOS-GLYDE BAF J77 PTW, ETC. THE CTLR (BOS DEP) SAID TO LOOK IN THE REMARKS SECTION. THERE IT SAID WYLYY FOUR DEP. I APOLOGIZED AND SHE SAID NO PROB, GAVE US A HDG AND THAT WAS THAT. ALL OTHER PDC'S FOR THAT PAIRING, AND ALL I CAN EVER REMEMBER, HAD/HAS ASSIGNED SID IN THE ATC CLRNC SECTION. WHY NOT BOS? THIS IS A PROB (POTENTIALLY LARGE PROB) THAT I FEEL NECESSITATES IMMEDIATE ATTN SYS WIDE! THE PDC'S, AT TIMES, ARE CONFUSING ENOUGH WITHOUT ASSIGNED SIDS AND STARS BEING HIDDEN IN REMARKS TEXT. HAVE THE ATC CLRNC SECTION READ AS IT WOULD BE ASSIGNED BY VOICE. WHY HIDE THE SID AND OR STAR IN THE REMARKS?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.