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Attributes | |
ACN | 622235 |
Time | |
Date | 200305 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : iah.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : i90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : i90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 622235 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
While being vectored for approach, we had another airplane pass close above us and then cut in front of us on the approach. On downwind we were asked to keep speed at 250 KTS. We were given a rather late clearance to 2000 ft and a late turn toward the approach. Upon lining up with the approach, we heard, 'cleared for approach' and acknowledged the clearance. At that time, we saw another MD80 pass high and in front of us. It passed through the centerline and then back to cut in front of us. We reported the other airplane and were told to maintain visual separation, slow to 150 KTS and call tower. We configured for landing. Our initial separation was about 1 mi, but soon widened to 3 or more mi. We landed with no further incident. Upon landing, the pilot of the other airplane mentioned a call sign mix-up. I wondered who mixed up, us or him. I called the approach control supervisor. He pulled the tapes to find that I had in fact answered the other airplane's approach clearance. He said what happened, was that he had a new controller working who gave us the late descent. This created a 'hole' in front of us and he filled it with the other MD80. I guess I had expected an approach clearance since we were on the approach and no one was in front of us at the time. The controller apparently had expected us to make a rapid descent from 6000 ft to 2000 ft. I explained that the MD80 doesn't descend very fast at 250 KTS.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MD80 ENCOUNTER ANOTHER ACFT ON APCH TO IAH.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR APCH, WE HAD ANOTHER AIRPLANE PASS CLOSE ABOVE US AND THEN CUT IN FRONT OF US ON THE APCH. ON DOWNWIND WE WERE ASKED TO KEEP SPD AT 250 KTS. WE WERE GIVEN A RATHER LATE CLRNC TO 2000 FT AND A LATE TURN TOWARD THE APCH. UPON LINING UP WITH THE APCH, WE HEARD, 'CLRED FOR APCH' AND ACKNOWLEDGED THE CLRNC. AT THAT TIME, WE SAW ANOTHER MD80 PASS HIGH AND IN FRONT OF US. IT PASSED THROUGH THE CTRLINE AND THEN BACK TO CUT IN FRONT OF US. WE RPTED THE OTHER AIRPLANE AND WERE TOLD TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION, SLOW TO 150 KTS AND CALL TWR. WE CONFIGURED FOR LNDG. OUR INITIAL SEPARATION WAS ABOUT 1 MI, BUT SOON WIDENED TO 3 OR MORE MI. WE LANDED WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENT. UPON LNDG, THE PLT OF THE OTHER AIRPLANE MENTIONED A CALL SIGN MIX-UP. I WONDERED WHO MIXED UP, US OR HIM. I CALLED THE APCH CTL SUPVR. HE PULLED THE TAPES TO FIND THAT I HAD IN FACT ANSWERED THE OTHER AIRPLANE'S APCH CLRNC. HE SAID WHAT HAPPENED, WAS THAT HE HAD A NEW CTLR WORKING WHO GAVE US THE LATE DSCNT. THIS CREATED A 'HOLE' IN FRONT OF US AND HE FILLED IT WITH THE OTHER MD80. I GUESS I HAD EXPECTED AN APCH CLRNC SINCE WE WERE ON THE APCH AND NO ONE WAS IN FRONT OF US AT THE TIME. THE CTLR APPARENTLY HAD EXPECTED US TO MAKE A RAPID DSCNT FROM 6000 FT TO 2000 FT. I EXPLAINED THAT THE MD80 DOESN'T DSND VERY FAST AT 250 KTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.