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Attributes | |
ACN | 623683 |
Time | |
Date | 200407 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : fdk.airport |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pwm.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | PA-31 Navajo Chieftan/Mojave/Navajo T1020 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | PA-32 Cherokee Six/Lance/Saratoga |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 50 |
ASRS Report | 623683 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 150 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Environmental Factor |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Coming off IFR flight plan, landing fdk. Empty leg after dropping off passenger, approximately 12 hours on duty. Saw airport about 2 mi at 2500 ft AGL. Canceled IFR. Stormy day, was landing behind a passing storm. First officer was flying. He was high and fast the entire time. There were 3-4 aircraft in the pattern. We were making standard radio calls, and saying we were high. On final, flew over a PA-34, never saw him. Pilot approached us on the ground and described what happened. Said we cut him off. He was low and slow, we were high and fast. We were both making radio calls, just not paying attention to each other.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN AN OVERTAKING PA31 AND AN OVERTAKEN PA32 ON FINAL APCH TO FDK.
Narrative: COMING OFF IFR FLT PLAN, LNDG FDK. EMPTY LEG AFTER DROPPING OFF PAX, APPROX 12 HRS ON DUTY. SAW ARPT ABOUT 2 MI AT 2500 FT AGL. CANCELED IFR. STORMY DAY, WAS LNDG BEHIND A PASSING STORM. FO WAS FLYING. HE WAS HIGH AND FAST THE ENTIRE TIME. THERE WERE 3-4 ACFT IN THE PATTERN. WE WERE MAKING STANDARD RADIO CALLS, AND SAYING WE WERE HIGH. ON FINAL, FLEW OVER A PA-34, NEVER SAW HIM. PLT APCHED US ON THE GND AND DESCRIBED WHAT HAPPENED. SAID WE CUT HIM OFF. HE WAS LOW AND SLOW, WE WERE HIGH AND FAST. WE WERE BOTH MAKING RADIO CALLS, JUST NOT PAYING ATTN TO EACH OTHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.