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GLF3 crew had a TCASII TA with a banner towing aircraft in smo class D. The GLF3 was complying with noise abatement regulations and had very limited climb ability.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 629880 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200409 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : smo.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : smo.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Gulfstream III |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : smo.tower |
| Operator | Other |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 2500 |
| ASRS Report | 629880 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 300 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airspace Structure Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
During noise abatement procedures on takeoff and initial climb from runway 21 smo, received at least 2 TA's from banner tow planes over beach. The reduced thrust setting for noise puts us in a precarious position over the beach on takeoff from that runway. The reduced thrust did not provide much climb performance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GLF3 CREW HAD A TCASII TA WITH A BANNER TOWING ACFT IN SMO CLASS D. THE GLF3 WAS COMPLYING WITH NOISE ABATEMENT REGS AND HAD VERY LIMITED CLB ABILITY.
Narrative: DURING NOISE ABATEMENT PROCS ON TKOF AND INITIAL CLB FROM RWY 21 SMO, RECEIVED AT LEAST 2 TA'S FROM BANNER TOW PLANES OVER BEACH. THE REDUCED THRUST SETTING FOR NOISE PUTS US IN A PRECARIOUS POS OVER THE BEACH ON TKOF FROM THAT RWY. THE REDUCED THRUST DID NOT PROVIDE MUCH CLB PERFORMANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.