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An EMB145 crew with an outboard brake inoperative warning has difficulty with company communication. The delay and declining fuel along with advice from dispatch resulted in an emergency declaration and landing at dca. The crew would have preferred iad.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 631957 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200409 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
| State Reference | DC |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 631957 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eicas other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : landed in emergency condition |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
When landing gear was lowered, we got an 'outboard brake inoperative' EICAS message. Performed 'QRH' which specified increased landing distance. Could not get hold of either comrdo frequency, so a station relay was attempted to contact dispatch, but because of communication problems with the station people at dca operations, we gave up after about 10 mins. Attempted a relay through dulles operations, and that worked better. After a fairly long time (15-20 mins), dispatch advised that a landing could be attempted on runway 1 at dca, and no divert to dulles was necessary. We wanted to go to dulles due to a longer runway, but dispatch insisted on dca. Declared an emergency before landing at dca due to the fact that only 1 pair of brakes were working, short runway and nearly emergency fuel due to the long delay in communicating with dispatch. After landing I called the dispatcher on the phone, and his argument for us landing at dca was that they did not want to bus the passenger back!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB145 CREW WITH AN OUTBOARD BRAKE INOP WARNING HAS DIFFICULTY WITH COMPANY COM. THE DELAY AND DECLINING FUEL ALONG WITH ADVICE FROM DISPATCH RESULTED IN AN EMER DECLARATION AND LNDG AT DCA. THE CREW WOULD HAVE PREFERRED IAD.
Narrative: WHEN LNDG GEAR WAS LOWERED, WE GOT AN 'OUTBOARD BRAKE INOP' EICAS MESSAGE. PERFORMED 'QRH' WHICH SPECIFIED INCREASED LNDG DISTANCE. COULD NOT GET HOLD OF EITHER COMRDO FREQ, SO A STATION RELAY WAS ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT DISPATCH, BUT BECAUSE OF COM PROBS WITH THE STATION PEOPLE AT DCA OPS, WE GAVE UP AFTER ABOUT 10 MINS. ATTEMPTED A RELAY THROUGH DULLES OPS, AND THAT WORKED BETTER. AFTER A FAIRLY LONG TIME (15-20 MINS), DISPATCH ADVISED THAT A LNDG COULD BE ATTEMPTED ON RWY 1 AT DCA, AND NO DIVERT TO DULLES WAS NECESSARY. WE WANTED TO GO TO DULLES DUE TO A LONGER RWY, BUT DISPATCH INSISTED ON DCA. DECLARED AN EMER BEFORE LNDG AT DCA DUE TO THE FACT THAT ONLY 1 PAIR OF BRAKES WERE WORKING, SHORT RWY AND NEARLY EMER FUEL DUE TO THE LONG DELAY IN COMMUNICATING WITH DISPATCH. AFTER LNDG I CALLED THE DISPATCHER ON THE PHONE, AND HIS ARGUMENT FOR US LNDG AT DCA WAS THAT THEY DID NOT WANT TO BUS THE PAX BACK!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.