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Flight crew of CL65 loses contact with ATC en route to iad. Hold at clearance limit until communication is re-established.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 636172 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200411 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : barin |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 14000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon artcc : zjx.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | arrival star : coatt |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 636172 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 1900 |
| ASRS Report | 635888 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Left orf en route to iad. Standard climb per fom. Switched to norfolk tower to departure, continued on course and climbed to 14000 ft. Assigned coatt 4 arrival. After radar vectors to join, the captain handed over the radio to me while he got ATIS and called in range. He came back up and asked if there were any radio changes. I said no and he resumed the radios. As we approached barin intersection, the captain said something was wrong and we should be with dulles approach, yet we were with orf departure. We tried to get a hold of orf with no reply. As he looked up the frequencys for dulles, I entered a hold so as to not pass our clearance limit. The captain was able to re-establish radio communication with dulles after a few controllers. We received vectors to the visual for the approach and landed without ever being told there was a problem. Factors: 1) better sterile cockpit. 2) better communication with ATC. 3) more situational awareness.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF CL65 LOSES CONTACT WITH ATC ENRTE TO IAD. HOLD AT CLRNC LIMIT UNTIL COM IS RE-ESTABLISHED.
Narrative: LEFT ORF ENRTE TO IAD. STANDARD CLB PER FOM. SWITCHED TO NORFOLK TWR TO DEP, CONTINUED ON COURSE AND CLBED TO 14000 FT. ASSIGNED COATT 4 ARR. AFTER RADAR VECTORS TO JOIN, THE CAPT HANDED OVER THE RADIO TO ME WHILE HE GOT ATIS AND CALLED IN RANGE. HE CAME BACK UP AND ASKED IF THERE WERE ANY RADIO CHANGES. I SAID NO AND HE RESUMED THE RADIOS. AS WE APCHED BARIN INTXN, THE CAPT SAID SOMETHING WAS WRONG AND WE SHOULD BE WITH DULLES APCH, YET WE WERE WITH ORF DEP. WE TRIED TO GET A HOLD OF ORF WITH NO REPLY. AS HE LOOKED UP THE FREQS FOR DULLES, I ENTERED A HOLD SO AS TO NOT PASS OUR CLRNC LIMIT. THE CAPT WAS ABLE TO RE-ESTABLISH RADIO COM WITH DULLES AFTER A FEW CTLRS. WE RECEIVED VECTORS TO THE VISUAL FOR THE APCH AND LANDED WITHOUT EVER BEING TOLD THERE WAS A PROB. FACTORS: 1) BETTER STERILE COCKPIT. 2) BETTER COM WITH ATC. 3) MORE SITUATIONAL AWARENESS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.