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Attributes | |
ACN | 637104 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : charted visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 20300 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 637104 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : flap position indicator other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
While conducting a visual approach to runway 31 at lga, the flaps failed at an intermediate setting of 20 degrees. We ran the normal and abnormal checklist procedures (twice) and landed. Landing distance is calculated at approximately 22%-25% greater than when using the normal flap setting of 45 degrees is used. I used poor judgement by coercing the first officer to continue the approach and instead we should have gone missed and circled to troubleshoot. And while the outcome would have been the same, the first officer would not have felt pressured. At least twice she expressed her discomfort on continuing the landing approach. Although the prospect of circling new york with not a lot of fuel is not my favorite choice nor going to jfk with their longer runways, this would have been a superior decision, by far. We are supposed to use our superior judgement to avoid having to use our superior flying skills, but instead I pushed my first officer to the limits of her skills. That was wrong.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF CL65 EXPERIENCE FROZEN FLAP CONDITION ON FINAL APCH TO MODERATED LENGTH RWY. LAND STRAIGHT IN WITHOUT FOLLOWING PRESCRIBED CHKLISTS FOR THE CONDITION.
Narrative: WHILE CONDUCTING A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 31 AT LGA, THE FLAPS FAILED AT AN INTERMEDIATE SETTING OF 20 DEGS. WE RAN THE NORMAL AND ABNORMAL CHKLIST PROCS (TWICE) AND LANDED. LNDG DISTANCE IS CALCULATED AT APPROX 22%-25% GREATER THAN WHEN USING THE NORMAL FLAP SETTING OF 45 DEGS IS USED. I USED POOR JUDGEMENT BY COERCING THE FO TO CONTINUE THE APCH AND INSTEAD WE SHOULD HAVE GONE MISSED AND CIRCLED TO TROUBLESHOOT. AND WHILE THE OUTCOME WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME, THE FO WOULD NOT HAVE FELT PRESSURED. AT LEAST TWICE SHE EXPRESSED HER DISCOMFORT ON CONTINUING THE LNDG APCH. ALTHOUGH THE PROSPECT OF CIRCLING NEW YORK WITH NOT A LOT OF FUEL IS NOT MY FAVORITE CHOICE NOR GOING TO JFK WITH THEIR LONGER RWYS, THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SUPERIOR DECISION, BY FAR. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO USE OUR SUPERIOR JUDGEMENT TO AVOID HAVING TO USE OUR SUPERIOR FLYING SKILLS, BUT INSTEAD I PUSHED MY FO TO THE LIMITS OF HER SKILLS. THAT WAS WRONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.